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as I said, their attributes grow at a different rate...

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Old 02-17-2005, 04:24 PM
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as far as i know, in the NES version, there is no difference between a black belt (monk) and the master. ie, there is no affect from the class change on the black belt.

I have a question regarding solo games: how high a level do you go when you solo? Because pretty much every character gets pretty good at level 50 (max level for original NES and hard origins game). The end fight with Chaos can be tricky depending on which class you have, though. BTW, level 50 black belt is by far better than a lvl 50 Knight w/ regards to the final battle.
Old 02-17-2005, 09:47 PM
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as I said, their attributes grow at a different rate...

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Like how? Does anyone know the formula yet?

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as far as i know, in the NES version, there is no difference between a black belt (monk) and the master. ie, there is no affect from the class change on the black belt.

I have a question regarding solo games: how high a level do you go when you solo? Because pretty much every character gets pretty good at level 50 (max level for original NES and hard origins game). The end fight with Chaos can be tricky depending on which class you have, though. BTW, level 50 black belt is by far better than a lvl 50 Knight w/ regards to the final battle.

There is a change. The BB gets +4 MD and the Master gets +1.

At even at level 50 and with max STR and 805 HP. It took me over 100 tries to beat the Temple of Fiends. Its not so much how hard the bosses are. Its surving/running from all of the regular fights.
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There is a change. The BB gets +4 MD and the Master gets +1.

At even at level 50 and with max STR and 805 HP. It took me over 100 tries to beat the Temple of Fiends. Its not so much how hard the bosses are. Its surving/running from all of the regular fights.

What is your source of this change? I haven't hacked the ROM or checked first hand, but I've read in a couple of FAQs, including one from our own Dr. Unne, that there is no change.

Are you talking about a level 50 thief it took you over 100 tries to beat the Temple of Fiends?
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What is your source of this change? I haven't hacked the ROM or checked first hand, but I've read in a couple of FAQs, including one from our own Dr. Unne, that there is no change.

Are you talking about a level 50 thief it took you over 100 tries to beat the Temple of Fiends?

*Sigh* Oh yes because Dr. Unnes site doesnt have it must mean it isnt true![/sarcasm]

Listen there are other players then Dr. Unne. Go to gamefaqs.com and check the FAQ for FF1 and then go to the one by Patbuns. He has all of the in depth info on FF1.

As for the solo thief question. Yes it did take me about 100 times. I could be exaggerating it.
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*Sigh* Oh yes because Dr. Unnes site doesnt have it must mean it isnt true![/sarcasm]

Listen there are other players then Dr. Unne. Go to gamefaqs.com and check the FAQ for FF1 and then go to the one by Patbuns. He has all of the in depth info on FF1.

As for the solo thief question. Yes it did take me about 100 times. I could be exaggerating it.
I didn't say that Dr. Unne was the only one to say this about the Black Belt/Master. In fact the FAQ that you referred me, the one by Patbuns17 entitled "Character Lists", has this quote: "Oh and by the way there is absolutely no difference between the Black Belt and Grand Master except graphical."
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*Sigh* Oh yes because Dr. Unnes site doesnt have it must mean it isnt true![/sarcasm]

Listen there are other players then Dr. Unne. Go to gamefaqs.com and check the FAQ for FF1 and then go to the one by Patbuns. He has all of the in depth info on FF1.

As for the solo thief question. Yes it did take me about 100 times. I could be exaggerating it.
I didn't say that Dr. Unne was the only one to say this about the Black Belt/Master. In fact the FAQ that you referred me, the one by Patbuns17 entitled "Character Lists", has this quote: "Oh and by the way there is absolutely no difference between the Black Belt and Grand Master except graphical."

Did you even check his whole FAQ on the BB? When he said that, he meant thats the only change you can see. Look into his FAQ over the BB stats and you will see his magic defense and how it changes. Oh and sorry for the late response by me. I guess I forgot about this topic.

Anyway here is what you missed from his FAQ

Black Belt:

(CLASS CHANGE -----> Grand Master)

Base Statistics:

HP: 33
Str: 5
Agi: 5
Int: 5
Vit: 20
Luk: 5
Hit%: 5 + 3 Per Level
Magic Defense: 10 + 4 Per level


Grand Master:

(Black Belt<----- CLASS CHANGE)
(Mag. Def + 3 per level)


His FAQ hasnt been updated in awhile thats why it says + 3 right there instead of + 1. But a couple months back he found out that it was +1.
Old 04-09-2005, 12:07 AM
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Do they still have that 4 times the experience in DOS? just wondering beause I read that exp. is split but if only 1 survives he racks it all in. Special knight training ahead.
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