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[Triple T]

Red Mages are really bad! Near the end, they get weak(worthless equipment and low strength stats) and bad spells(only up to level 5 and not even all of them for those levels and bad magic stat), so I tend to stay away from Red Mages.

[Doomie]

I went through the game extremely easily with2 warriors and 2 red mages, and the RM always attacked for alot. Masamune, X-CAL, were for the warriors, and Sunblade(dont really remember whats its called) and Vorpal sword (the green one) were for the RM. The only class I found useless was the BM cuz the only magic I used was cure/life for the RM, and Haste/Saber.

[Dunbar]

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I went through the game extremely easily with2 warriors and 2 red mages, and the RM always attacked for alot. Masamune, X-CAL, were for the warriors, and Sunblade(dont really remember whats its called) and Vorpal sword (the green one) were for the RM. The only class I found useless was the BM cuz the only magic I used was cure/life for the RM, and Haste/Saber.

I tried this party once, and it rocked. RM/RM is better than WM/BM I think, hands down. The two RMs do about the same damage as a fighter...so it's like having 3 fighters in your party. The same cannot be said for a WM/BM. RM and WM have about the same hps, and have the same armor at the end of the game, though RM have better armor earlier on....but the RM has far better hps than a BM, and much better survivability in the early game.

As far as spells go, you don't need to use as many spells when you can attack for 1/2 fighter damage or so. Seeing as fighters kill most things in one attack, you can kill 3 things in each round with F/F/RM/RM. When you get attacked by a lot of critters, both mages have access to the elemental magics. Since I can fight through most battles easily, I don't need much black magic, and still have pleanty for healing. And being able to fast both fighters in one round is awesome...can't do that with BM/WM. You also have the option to double up on healing. Not an issue in the late late game when WM has cure4, but earlier on it can be useful.

In fact, the only times I missed having one of the pure mages is early on against the stupid undead that can paralyze you. Then I was missing WM and Harm, which is a great spell.

Of course, part of my feelings on this is due to my playstyle, I'm sure. I hate running...I generally like to fight about 95% of the battles I face. Because of that, I just don't have enough magic with BM to get very far; the reliability of RM's fighting damage is a good thing, not to mention his greater survivability compared with BM.

[Seraf]

The RedMage cannot learn higher Lv Spells and he has lower MP than the BM does at a high lv..yeah the RDM has Melee, Whoopie Doo! He sucks at it! Black Mage is my favorite class in FFI other than the White Mage.

[Black Mage FF1]

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The RedMage cannot learn higher Lv Spells and he has lower MP than the BM does at a high lv..yeah the RDM has Melee, Whoopie Doo! He sucks at it! Black Mage is my favorite class in FFI other than the White Mage.

Its been awhile since anyone has posted on this. Anyway


Like I have said again and again. The higher level spells that the Bm can learn that the Rm cannot learn ARE NOT THAT GREAT. They are highly overrated. OMG NO NUKE? NO SABER? A SPELL THAT DOES NOT WORK? What a loss. The Rm amount of mp is not an issue at all. Yeah Bm gets a little more mp than the Rm but if you have a good party then the amount of mp the Rm has is more then enough. Oh and the Rm does not suck at melee. He has the 3rd best throughout the whole game.

Wm and Bm your favorite class!?! AHAHAHAHA! Why is that? You like weak characters who sit in just about every battle doing nothing? At least when the Rm waits for his spells to be needed (Like healing), he can attack and contribute to damage. What does the Wm do when no one needs to be healed? Sit and lose hp? Attack for terrible damage? Same goes for Bm he sucks up so much heal spells/potions. The only thing he can do is casts spells but once his mp is all up(which happens very fast) than what?

Really I wonder what is so great about the Wm and Bm.....

[feioncastor]

There is no class that sucks. They all have their ups and downs, so to say that one is better than another isn't really fair. There may be some that you're better with using, but that doesn't make him better.

For example, I knew a guy who had a team of all fighters, and he got by fine. It was easy as heck for him. I prefer to have a Fighter, BB, BM, and WM. I tried the all fighters thing, and it didn't work for me.

The only classes that I'll say that I dislike are the thief (not as much hp/phy def as Fighter) and the Red Mage. The Red Mage's fighting ability is less than that of the Fighter, and his magic ability is less than that of the white or black mage, so he's a mutt of sorts, and I'd prefer the purebred.

Feion

[strawberryman]

You forgot one thing, poindexter. RED MAGES CAN ONLY USE UP TO LEVEL 5 MAGIC! Sure they have so-called 'better' attack, but so what? They can only hit half as hard as half as hard as the fighter. (or 1/4. kinda confusing ) Sure he's kind of good in the beginning, but after that halfpoint in the game, they suck!
Second, black mages are the best. As they have Nuke.
and if this doesn't sway you then you're just being stubborn.

and plus, when you're red mage can only heal so much because he only has cure, then you're in trouble.

[Black Mage FF1]

And the mome rath strawberryman222 outgrabe:

You forgot one thing, poindexter. RED MAGES CAN ONLY USE UP TO LEVEL 5 MAGIC! Sure they have so-called 'better' attack, but so what? They can only hit half as hard as half as hard as the fighter. (or 1/4. kinda confusing ) Sure he's kind of good in the beginning, but after that halfpoint in the game, they suck!
Second, black mages are the best. As they have Nuke.
and if this doesn't sway you then you're just being stubborn.

and plus, when you're red mage can only heal so much because he only has cure, then you're in trouble.

Oh yes and you too forgot something, Black Mages cannot learn NUKE! Only Black Wizards can!

When I say Red Mages are better then Black Mages, I am also saying that RW are better then BW. And the Rw can learn up to level 7 magic. Which for experienced players like me it is good enough. Wow he doesnt get to cast 1 or 2 casts of Nuke at the end of the game. He is missing a lot[/Sarcasm]

The Red Mages attack is more like only half of the fighters. Not 1/4. Unlike the Bm whose attack is like 1/1000 of the fighters.

Like I said if you have a good party then there is no need to cast Cure every turn.