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[God]

If I want a character who can only punch stuff, I'd unequip a Fighter. At least Fighters get to wear armor. And later get some white magic. And aren't dressed in powder-blue sweat-pants.

[Black Mage FF1]

Originally Posted by Dr Unne

If I want a character who can only punch stuff, I'd unequip a Fighter. At least Fighters get to wear armor. And later get some white magic. And aren't dressed in powder-blue sweat-pants.

I never said anything about the fighter. My problem is with the Bm and how useless they are.

[Rase]

Originally Posted by Black Mage FF1

I never said anything about the fighter. My problem is with the Bm and how useless they are.

I'm still confused at why your name is "Black mage FF1" yet you think the BM in FF1 is the worst character.

[God]

What does the BM have to do with the suckiness of the BB? We have another thread for discussing why the BM doesn't suck at all. This thread is about BBs, and why they're oh so very terrible.

[Flying Mullet]

Black Mages are usefull because in regular battles their level 2 and 3 spells can clean out the opponents rather quickly. And in boss battles they are useful because of spells like fast. And I rarely have my black mages die in one hit in any battle, so they are able to cast a couple of spels before I have to worry about their low life or being dead.

[Black Mage FF1]

Originally Posted by Mr. Mimic

Black Mages are usefull because in regular battles their level 2 and 3 spells can clean out the opponents rather quickly. And in boss battles they are useful because of spells like fast. And I rarely have my black mages die in one hit in any battle, so they are able to cast a couple of spels before I have to worry about their low life or being dead.

lvl 2 magic does not clean out enemies quickly. ICE1 isnt that good. Besides the Rm can get it too, same goes for FIRE2 and Fast. Bm do die pretty fast. Lets say you run into a giant and his first attack is on a Bm it could be a crit hit. The Bm is dead. If it were a Rm he would most likley live due to his higher hp and defense.

To Dr. Unne. What is wrong with BB? Their attack? Magic defense? High Hp? Or is it because they have low defense? So what? So do the Bm/Wm (not as low but still pretty close). At least the BB has high hp and magic defense to make up for it.

LMAO at Dark_Paladin_Cecil's post!

[God]

BBs are good for one thing: fighting. However for most of the game, a Fighter has stronger physical attacks than a BB. BB has lower defense than a Fighter. BB never gets magic, and a Fighter does. BB doesn't have significantly more HP than a Fighter. A BB is a weaker, sucky version of a Fighter. If you like BBs, you should like Fighters more, because Fighters are better in every way. If you want to purposefully cripple your party for a challenge, then maybe BBs are OK I guess. If you want to hide the BB in the back row so they don't die every 5 battles, then sure, they can be OK, but only because the big strong Fighters are there to keep them alive.

BB is boring. Finding weapons and armor = fun. Running around punching stuff = not fun. Final Fantasy is a fantasy game, and in fantasy games I enjoy fantasy. A guy who punches stuff is not fantasy. I can punch stuff myself. I can't wield a sword or throw fireballs at things.

And he's ugly. You must admit that he's ugly.

Two good things about the BB: Cheap, and lots of room to carry items. I don't care if they're cheap, because money is never a problem when I play. The ability to carry items turns them into a half-rate red mage at best, and certainly isn't reason enough to justify taking them over a better character, and you only get spell-casting items very late in the game.

[Black Mage FF1]

Originally Posted by Dr Unne

BBs are good for one thing: fighting. However for most of the game, a Fighter has stronger physical attacks than a BB. BB has lower defense than a Fighter. BB never gets magic, and a Fighter does. BB doesn't have significantly more HP than a Fighter. A BB is a weaker, sucky version of a Fighter. If you like BBs, you should like Fighters more, because Fighters are better in every way. If you want to purposefully cripple your party for a challenge, then maybe BBs are OK I guess. If you want to hide the BB in the back row so they don't die every 5 battles, then sure, they can be OK, but only because the big strong Fighters are there to keep them alive.

Well I never said that a BB is better than a Fighter. I know that the Fighter owns the BB in just about every catagory (just like the Rm owns the Bm). But Still the BB have strong attack power. Throughout most of the game he will be the second strongest fighter. At the end of the game when I beat it at lvl 26-28 he is just as strong as the Knight with the Xcaliber. Yes the Knight does have more Hp than the BB but its not that high in difference (like around 50-100) Compared to everyone else who is like 200 hp below the fighter. A BB is better then the Knight in some areas. Like his magic defense. The BB has higher magic defense. The BB starts out with 10 and gets +4 every lvl, while the Fighter gets 15 + 3 every lvl.

Originally Posted by Dr Unne

BB is boring. Finding weapons and armor = fun. Running around punching stuff = not fun. Final Fantasy is a fantasy game, and in fantasy games I enjoy fantasy. A guy who punches stuff is not fantasy. I can punch stuff myself. I can't wield a sword or throw fireballs at things.

You can still find stuff for him. He can equip armor and he can use items as magic. Thats always fun.

Originally Posted by Dr Unne

And he's ugly. You must admit that he's ugly.

Not really. I think he looks pretty cool.

Originally Posted by Dr Unne

Two good things about the BB: Cheap, and lots of room to carry items. I don't care if they're cheap, because money is never a problem when I play. The ability to carry items turns them into a half-rate red mage at best, and certainly isn't reason enough to justify taking them over a better character, and you only get spell-casting items very late in the game.

Well in the begining of the game (depending on your party) money can be a problem. Unless you over lvl or something and fight for hours at a time. It can be trouble to buy stuff right away. Like lvl 4 magic for example. Or a silver sword, or copper bracelets. Having a BB lets you save money so you can acually go and buy that stuff.