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[Nod]

Im not too fussed about any of the bots, they're pretty harmless really, except when you get booted for a caps flood, get back in the room, and then get booted again for a repetition flood.

I agree with MP too.

Edit: I appear to be contradicting myself. So, in truth I guess I support this movement.

[Loony BoB]

Okay

I'm totally putting my foot down when I'm back home tonight! Both feet, even!

YOU HEAR ME CLOUT!? BOTH DAMNED FEET. PREPARE!

EDIT: Chubbz you could always make me an IRCop Then I will have even more feet to put down.

[Chubbzilla]

Originally Posted by Loony BoB

I'm totally putting my foot down when I'm back home tonight! Both feet, even!

Good on you xD
Now why aren't you answering your AIM nub ;[?

[Raistlin]

Originally Posted by Chubbzilla

If you decide to make changes, and people just make fun of you, then you need to kick them out.
In all seriousness, you're way too soft about stuff like this. Put your foot down for once.
If you need help in laying down the law, then I'll be around for backup. T'is my job after all.

Daniel...isn't that exactly what you told me to do at tGA?

[RSL]

BoB I agree with everything you said. The caps flood, punctuation flood, and repetition flood kicks definitely need to go.

Someone got kicked one day for saying "there there." Ridiculous.

Maybe it's just me but I don't see the problem with lines in all caps. No one in there seems to do it to a point that I think is excessive, not even Resha (though I'm not usually in there during her peak time).

[Shoden]

though i got banned when i was about to leave that flood kick punctuation flood kick and all the other auto kicking crap was annoying i got headaches from seeing people getting kicked blah. and as for advise to Aops use the kban option more if someone is saying psycho stuff no one likes kick warn if again another kick and if again a kban like other servers you can remove the bans when you like and errrr unban me from the server and ban me from the room for as long as you want but im sure the ffchat ban is for a long time.



other things are ops dont idle much people think you're dead and umm Op's NO SUGAR! if you've seen what it can do to people youll be kbanning machines actually i encountered an incident like that i got banned from a sugar hi op who removed me a week later XD. oh everything else is fine but the sheer randomness of the room itself is enough to call it a "mental Asylum" really everyones strange in there own unique way but im not gonna get into details.



Mint is a bot!? well ill be

[Agent Proto]

1) No bots aside from Raggy and Mint. Mint can be used for his translator crap etc. ~Agreed
2) No "Don't do that" rule where if you kick someone, you get kicked. Same for de-opping. If I want to de-op three people in one go, I don't want to get kicked. If I want to op three people, I don't want to get kicked. This should at least apply to all the aops in the room. ~Agreed
3) No caps flood kick, no punctuation flood kick. If someone is going to be an arse then we can kick them ourselves or we can ban them if they do it too often~Agreed, agreed, agreed.
4) No useless triggered scripts. I am happy to be the judge of what is useless and what is not once people start using them and will advise people of how it is useless by either chatting to them or kicking them repeatedly.~Not to sure about this, but the chatters do get amused with them, so I don't see any real harm with these useless scripts.
5) Only one second name (Mint and Raggy don't count as clones as they are bots) per user at most. Not from the same PC, please. That's just silly.~Agreed

[Aexoden]

Ok, here's my opinion on your list. You'll note that I hate hard-and-fast rules as much as possible, and would much prefer social pressures.

1) The key distinction to make is between useful bots that provide a service or do something unique and not annoying, and useless bots that provide repeat services or don't really do anything. There really aren't that many bots at the moment. (Ok, I wrote that line before I actually went through the list. But you made it sound like everyone had a bot or two.) But here's the list as I see it, and their function:

• Mint: Provides japanese translation service, ping service, and several annoying and pointless kicks. Judgment: Needs some modification, but otherwise useful.
• Philia: Never speaks, and produces the piespy chart that people occasionally look at it. Given its lack of speaking, its only problem is it takes up a slot on the nicklist. If that's a problem, then... eh, find a new hobby. Judgment: Useful
• Ragnarok: Provides ChanServ type services. Has a few annoying kicks, but those may or may not be changeable, and really aren't that intrusive. Judgment: Useful, of course.
• Confeito: Experimental conversation bot. People weren't even supposed to know it's a bot. Anyway, you can ask me personally for more details on how it works. It has no true triggers, per se. Judgment: Who knows. It might start taking up too much RAM for me to keep it here.
• Chubbzilla (whatever his bot's name happens to be at the time): Doesn't say anything as far as I know. I think it provides something useful, though I don't know what. Judgment: Neutral.
• Hotaru: shuten's eggdrop. Doesn't really do anything as far as #eoff is concerned. So again, it's only a nicklist slot that's missing.
• Krabmeat: Not actually in there at the moment, but it's Cbc's. I don't think it does anything useful, other than let Cbc talk when I banned him overnight because I forgot to take it off. ^_^?
• Skwoo: I don't know what it does. Probably takes up a nick list slot. Oh noes.

2) As far as Munty's go, it's more of a protection scheme than anything else. A few months ago, we had a little protection war type thing in #waiting_bar, and the protections we came up with were somewhat elaborate. It got really bad in there, actually. I eventually wrote a script to just deop everyone except me. Oh, fun times. But anyway, they only affect trying to attack Munty's clones. They're pretty much useless scripts, though, but getting him to remove them (especially if they're buried in pages of scripts) may or may not be difficult. Ragnarok also has some mass-deop kicks, and I don't know what can be done about that.

3) Yes, the caps flood, punctuation, and repetition kicks are pointless and stupid. Burn, burn, burn.

4) This goes back to useful vs. useless. At the very least, if a script doesn't provide useful content to the entire channel (but perhaps to a single person), it should respond with a notice. Most of my scripts did that back when I ran mIRC. That can result in trigger flooding, so private message or ctcp based triggers can be useful too. I had a little used one for my seen script back in the day.

5) Multiple names isn't really a problem except with some select people (especially FFChatters). But obviously, one person being on pretending to be three is kind of stupid. Just remember that there may be times when two siblings might be on from the same connection or something.

If there's anything else, I don't know what it is. I'm usually quite lax with what I let people do, and the only thing that can potentially annoy me is lots of kicking or instabanning.