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#9  Well, when a person joins, it can be quickly determined if they've been at forums before... if not, then they're whatevered until it's decided that they are a mature enough member? That I think is the way to do this... I'm still against it. It sorta takes away the freedom of the newbie experience, having this vet' constantly looking over your shoulder... even if they aren't actually doing that, it will probably feel that way... |
03-11-2002, 07:26 AM
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 | *gets fantastical gleam in her eye* What if... A new forum where begun, just like there's a forum for ffIV, and there's one for chrono cross... you get my point. A 'New Member Forum', where newer members can go and talk to newer members (and hence make new friends who are in the same situation), ask questions, get advice and so forth about eoff, and the o'le veterans can hop on over and lovingly guide the n00b's to dignified conversation and outright sillyness. Hmmm? I belonged once to an online rpg which had a chat that was split into three areas, the commons, the tavern, and the king's court. As a member, you could only access the commons until you had been a member for so long (a month, I believe), and you gained access to the other chats as you went on. There were a few devoted veterans who hung out in the commons often, to guide and assist the n00b's. I know it really helped me out, and when I later went on to the tavern, I really fit right in. T'was cool. I'm not insinuating that we should restrict n00b's access to the forums (heck, I'm quite the n00b myself), but having a place of peers with a couple people who've been here a while to push you in the right direction can be really helpful. Damn, I'm long winded. |
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03-11-2002, 07:54 AM
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| Former Staff  | I personally don't think a "New Members" forum is necessary, nor do I think a "Newbie Outreach Program" is necessary. If people post and are at all intelligent/ humorous/ friendly, they get noticed, and make friends. I don't see how forcing people to befriend new members would help anything. Plus, as BoB pointed out, it would require a lot of organization - we get many new members each day, and to match a veteran member with each of them would be time-consuming, and rather pointless, I think. As was also said - it's nicer when people reach out to be nice, not because a staff member forces them to do so. |
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03-11-2002, 09:25 AM
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| | It may be a bit difficult to bust into the circle(s) of friends we have around here, but that's life. Personally I try to be friends with people who seem to be good friend material, be they oldbie or newbie or whatever. I think enforced friendship to all newbies would be a really big waste of time (since so many newbies do and will leave in short time, no matter what), and also it wouldn't be honest, as other people said. In real life, school for example, such things are necessary because people HAVE to fit in in school eventually; they're forced to go to school there. But if someone doesn't fit in here, they're free to leave and find an MB where they do. Some people probably just don't belong here, and I think it's better that those people don't receive false impressions that they will fit in here when they don't. That's my opinion on the matter anyways. But yeah, we still do have some "newbies" who stick around for a long time. Not many, but enough to keep the place going, and the people who do stick around as a general rule tend to be really great people. |
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03-11-2002, 10:07 AM
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| Recognized Member  | I understand why the idea doesn't exactly fly with a lot of you... but I'm quite tired of people giving up so easily on people who make mistakes and just don't have anyone to correct them... or talk to them about them. Nothing can be forced on someone and obviously if you didn't want to then don't. There shouldn't be any false pretences. There shouldn't be any catagorizing and labeling. What I ment by this idea, which I continue to stick with, is that it'd be nice, for someone who just joined the forums to be personally greeted and have someone that they can talk to with out fear of being shot down publicly. I figured, with a little open mindedness that cynicalism and pessimisn may be even slightly replaced with optimism. What's 5 minutes out of a person's day to answer some issues? And by issues, I don't exactly mean personal. Though if the friendship were to evolve that way, then so be it. Even more so the reason to give it a go. ....and honestly, for this hing called too much work? I really don't get that... how can you move ahead if you won't take a few steps forward? Sure, the concept has falws, I've noticed the flaws... but instead of shooting it down enitrely, offer some constructive criticism. Every raw idea has it's bumbs... I truely believe with the right modifications something rewarding and positive could come out of it. There's a lot of things one could change about the whole concept. ^_^ And I agree with some of the points brought up, some of them I haven't considered... but I feel that other's are just bashing it.... Why? Can it really cause that much disturbance? Some people are so wonderful, but are shy to push themselves into the crowds of wonderful people here... so sometimes all they need is a pull. I'm not saying worship the ground of every new member. I'm merely preposing the fact that there are people who deserve to have the attention we could give them with out stereo types and fabrication. There's a 50% possibility this person could be shy or outgoing. There's a 50% chance this person could be utterly amazing or a huge arse... If my math is correct, that leaves about 25% who are amazing, yet shy... and I sometimes worry about who just walks away. Life doesn't have to be as complicated as we let it be. |
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03-11-2002, 07:45 PM
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| | If you think it's a good idea, maybe you could organize some sort of welcoming party yourself. You could recruit whoever wants to help you, whoever has the time and who agrees with your opinions and wants to help out. It would be a nice thing to do, I agree. I bet you could get people to help you. You could maybe make a thread about it in General Chat, not asking if it's a good idea, but just asking for volunteers to help you out. I assume you'd be willing to do it yourself, right? I think it'd work out. It doesn't have to be a Staff-run thing, right? You could do it yourself.  |
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03-11-2002, 07:54 PM
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| Administrator  | I reckon that's a very true statement. Unfortunately, they're gonna have to put up with that. It's what they are, we all were one or are one. *shrugs* As for just a nice friendly PM when someone joins... I've done it a few times before, believe it or not. Including trippy fly 69  Or whatever his name was. Rawk.I say it again - if someone wants to do it, do it. But it's entirely up to YOU. |
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03-12-2002, 05:57 AM
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