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[edczxcvbnm]

I think I need to elaborate on #6 some more XP

6. Psychotic has found your old second account but thinks it belongs to crashNUMBARs. Would you, and if so how, inform him of the discrepancy? You still want to use the account in future.

There are no second accounts. You should explain to psy that it was your old second account and that you have not used it in forever. You forgot it existed but this should not go as a mark against crashNumbers for his possible future reinstatement.

That is what was and here is what I am adding to it

This question states that it was an old second account that you have not used in sometime. As a mod you get a second account to test stuff out right? If I have not used this one in quite sometime then I must have forgotten about it and probably made a new one when becoming a knight. It becomes a memory trigger thing where you see the name and go 'Hey....wasn't that mine like 4 years ago?' XD

Due to how I interrupt the question, I would have no need for this 3rd account in the future and if I really wanted it again I could always name change my brand new Knight second account or delete the knight second account and use that one as my knight second account.

This question just sounds like a trick question on so many levels XD

[Crossblades]

Questions:

1. When is double posting okay?
Seems to me double posting is never ok, unless you needed to say something really important

2. What is the signature size limit?
I dont seem to know this one

3. When should the warn button be used and when should it not?
Warn button should be used when members are causing trouble or when they're not following forum rules

4. How can a banned member get unbanned?
Once a member is banned, they stay banned

5. What is EoFF's policy on cursing?
There is no cursing allowed whatsoever

6. Psychotic has found your old second account but thinks it belongs to crashNUMBARs. Would you, and if so how, inform him of the discrepancy? You still want to use the account in future.
I dont have a second account, but if I did have one, I would tell Psy I would use that second account for undercover stuff

7. crono_logical is injecting javascript into everyone's posts that makes pictures of penises and vaginas (nonos on eoff!) pop up on every thread. How do you confront him and get him banned, him being an administrator and you a lowly Cid's Knight who can't ban admin?
I would tell him that what he's doing is wrong and we would lose lots of members and the site would close down. If he ignores it, I would personally tell Loonybob about chrono and hopefully he does something about it.

8. rubah won't shut the smurf up. You're really tired of her spamming everywhere and you think it's giving the rest of the staff a bad, if rather active, name. How do you tell her children are better seen and not heard?
I'd tell rubah that we are mods and we are supposed to set a good example for the members. We cant set a good example if we are high above the rules.

9. Hsu hasn't performed a moderative action in a year. Pick a course of either trying to drive him off staff or drive him to activity and state how you would do it. Assume that Loony BoB is on your side and no one else is.
I would provide proof. I would look up threads that he posted in that should've been closed. Look up posts that breaks some forum rules etc.

10. Congratulations! You've just been made a Cid's Knight and you've decided to host a EoFF meetup at your house to celebrate. While you and your fellow EoFF buddies are partying it up, several people manage to browse a bit through the staff forum via your personal computer. What do you do?
When I have guests, I turn off my PC before they arrive.

[Zeldy]

1. When is double posting okay?
In my opinion, double posting is not okay and I don't see why people would choose to do it, editing a post allows you to add that little bit you forgot. If, however, it's a mistake and has been posted twice on accident then that's different, as the person didn't mean to do it. Generally, though, I don't appreciate seeing the same username several times in a row.

2. What is the signature size limit?
Maximum width of 550 pixels (I remember when it used to be 500 pixels). Maximum height of 250 pixels; this includes any text in the signature, not just an image. The total file size of all images combined must not exceed 50 KiB (51,200 bytes).

3. When should the warn button be used and when should it not?
The warn button should be saved for serious spamming or aggressive behaviour. Someone posting twice is a nuisanse but it is not unethical so doesn't need to be warned. If someone is being aggressive (in all forums but more importantly in EoEo) then this straight away must be warned so the staff are alerted and can remove of it straight away and ban the user.

4. How can a banned member get unbanned?
Wait for two years and then ask to be considered for unbanning. I'm pretty sure that is correct, but I've never been banned so I wouldn't know first hand.

5. What is EoFF's policy on cursing?
I rarely swear but from what I've witnessed on the forums there are swearing filter's for a reason. Teenagers as young as 11 or 12 log onto this forum and do not want to come across posts filled with swear words. Including a swear word between every other word is just pointless, use the spam filter if you really feel the need to swear. EoFF's policy is anyone who tries to get around the swear filter's posts are edited and if it persists the person is warned.

6. Psychotic has found your old second account but thinks it belongs to crashNUMBARs. Would you, and if so how, inform him of the discrepancy? You still want to use the account in future.
If I already had an account, which assuming I do, I would have no need for an old second account, so I would allow him to believe it's crashNUMBARs and wouldn't say anything if he deleted it. If you already have one account, why do you need another?

7. crono_logical is injecting javascript into everyone's posts that makes pictures of penises and vaginas (nonos on eoff!) pop up on every thread. How do you confront him and get him banned, him being an administrator and you a lowly Cid's Knight who can't ban admin?
I would pm another admin such as Loony Bob and inform him of what was happening. Firstly though, I'd assume that crono_logical had been hacked and so confronting him would do nothing. It's up to the admins to ban, not the Cid's Knights.

8. rubah won't shut the smurf up. You're really tired of her spamming everywhere and you think it's giving the rest of the staff a bad, if rather active, name. How do you tell her children are better seen and not heard?
I'd tell rubah through a pm that she wasn't setting the best example of how to post on a forum and hope that she would realise what she was doing and saved it for #eoff.

9. Hsu hasn't performed a moderative action in a year. Pick a course of either trying to drive him off staff or drive him to activity and state how you would do it. Assume that Loony BoB is on your side and no one else is.
I would drive him into activity. I'd converse with Loony Bob and choose little activities we could ask Hsu to do to keep him active.

10. Congratulations! You've just been made a Cid's Knight and you've decided to host a EoFF meetup at your house to celebrate. While you and your fellow EoFF buddies are partying it up, several people manage to browse a bit through the staff forum via your personal computer. What do you do?
I'd turn the computer off straight away and say 'fancy another beer?' to distract them (not if they were under 18 ofcourse!)

[Jess]

This is a good task.

Task 2:

1. When is double posting okay?
If your thread is an art or writing thread and you have new piece of work to add to your thread but have had no comments since you last posted (considering a fair amount of time has passed since you have last posted instead of like an hour or so) then that is an exception.

2. What is the signature size limit?
The maximum file size is 50KB and the maximum dimensions are 550x250px.

3. When should the warn button be used and when should it not?
The warn button should be used to make staff aware of posts/threads breaking the forum rules, or of threads that have been made in the incorrect forum. The warn button should not be used if there is no rule break, or to send spam messages to the staff. A staff member might also use the warn button to get a second opinion on something if they are not sure what to do.

4. How can a banned member get unbanned?
After two years of being banned, a banned member can appeal to be unbanned. Of course, appealing doesn’t guarantee being unbanned. The member would need to show that they have changed their ways and that they can behave; what they had done to get themselves banned in the first place would also have an effect on the decision.

5. What is EoFF's policy on cursing?
EoFF is supposed to be ‘family friendly’ as there are members here of all ages so swearing is discouraged throughout the forums. If somebody is seen as overly swearing by the staff they’d probably receive a warning and be asked to cut it out. If the overuse of profanity continues then they could be banned.

6. Psychotic has found your old second account but thinks it belongs to crashNUMBARs. Would you, and if so how, inform him of the discrepancy? You still want to use the account in future.
I would. I’d PM him or tell him on MSN and he could easily check by matching the IP of the account with my own. I’d have to come to terms with the fact that the account would have to be banned or merged with my account as they’re not allowed. ;]

7. crono_logical is injecting javascript into everyone's posts that makes pictures of penises and vaginas (nonos on eoff!) pop up on every thread. How do you confront him and get him banned, him being an administrator and you a lowly Cid's Knight who can't ban admin?
I’d inform another admin of the situation firstly so that they could take action with it and I'd also send a PM asking cl_out what the hell they were doing and would ask them to stop. In the mean time I would try and remove as much of the porn from posts as possible.

8. rubah won't shut the smurf up. You're really tired of her spamming everywhere and you think it's giving the rest of the staff a bad, if rather active, name. How do you tell her children are better seen and not heard?
Instead of making a big deal of it by making a thread about it in the staff forum and such, I’d probably approach rubah directly by sending her a PM about the situation and what I thought. If she chose to completely ignore me that would probably be the point where I brought it to the other staff members attention (had they not already noticed themselves.)

9. Hsu hasn't performed a moderative action in a year. Pick a course of either trying to drive him off staff or drive him to activity and state how you would do it. Assume that Loony BoB is on your side and no one else is.

Assume that Loony BoB is on your side and no one else is.

Oh crap, I’m screwed.

It would depend on the situation to what course I would choose to take. It would depend on whether Hsu had a legitimate reason as to why he had been so inactive or whether he was just being lazy. Either way, I would stand my ground and present my thoughts and feelings towards the situation to the staff with the hope that they would understand mine and Daniel’s side of the argument. I think we would need to hear Hsu’s side of the story, and I also think that the staff would need to be in a majority agreement before any action could be taken.

10. Congratulations! You've just been made a Cid's Knight and you've decided to host a EoFF meetup at your house to celebrate. While you and your fellow EoFF buddies are partying it up, several people manage to browse a bit through the staff forum via your personal computer. What do you do?
My personal computer has a password, but honestly; this is something that I wouldn’t deal with on my own. I’d make the other staff aware of what had happened to see what they would have to say about it and what action they would like to take.

[Breine]

1. When is double posting okay? My first thought is never, apart from user notes and such of course, but I guess it can be acceptable if a newbie does it in his/her welcome thread.

2. What is the signature size limit? 250 x 550 pixels or 50 kb.

3. When should the warn button be used and when should it not? It should be used when someone has cursed, bashed another member, posted porn of something else forbidden in a reply. It shouldn’t be used for personal gains/reasons, e.g. if you don’t like another member or something similar.

4. How can a banned member get unbanned? The banned member has to wait two years, and then he/she can ask to get unbanned – each Cid Knight then has to decide whether or not they personally find him/her eligible to get unbanned.

5. What is EoFF's policy on cursing? It’s a big fat no-no.

6. Psychotic has found your old second account but thinks it belongs to crashNUMBARs. Would you, and if so how, inform him of the discrepancy? You still want to use the account in future. Me wanting to use such a second account is very unlikely, but hypothetically I’d confess to him about it no matter what, and then if I really wanted to use the account in the future I’d ask for his permission, and if he said no I’d accept it and move on.

7. crono_logical is injecting javascript into everyone's posts that makes pictures of penises and vaginas (nonos on eoff!) pop up on every thread. How do you confront him and get him banned, him being an administrator and you a lowly Cid's Knight who can't ban admin? Well, I’d send him a PM where I'd highly suggest him to remove the javascripts right away, and also inform him that I’m going to take it up with all of the other Cid Knight’s and administrators – because he is an admin it should really be a group decision among the CKs and admins.

8. rubah won't shut the smurf up. You're really tired of her spamming everywhere and you think it's giving the rest of the staff a bad, if rather active, name. How do you tell her children are better seen and not heard? Again since she’s part of the staff and a Cid’s Knight it’s not really something I can do by myself. So therefore I’d also inform her that I'm going to take it up with the other Cid's Knights and staff members, and that we're going to find out what to do about the situation.

9. Hsu hasn't performed a moderative action in a year. Pick a course of either trying to drive him off staff or drive him to activity and state how you would do it. Assume that Loony BoB is on your side and no one else is. I’d suggest that if he still really wants to be a mod it would be a good idea to become active again, or else it would be a good idea to step back, since being a mod without actually doing anything moderative is kinda pointless.

10. Congratulations! You've just been made a Cid's Knight and you've decided to host a EoFF meetup at your house to celebrate. While you and your fellow EoFF buddies are partying it up, several people manage to browse a bit through the staff forum via your personal computer. What do you do?
I’d immediately shut the computer down, and then when I come back online I’d give them a warning for doing such a thing. Friends or not, doing that is forbidden.

[IBCrayZ]

Finished Round 2 Questions



1. When is double posting okay?
When updating a situation after some time. Or in art/poem/writing thread updates.

2. What is the signature size limit?
550x250 50KiB <-Thanks to Leeza for that one!

3. When should the warn button be used and when should it not?
Use the warn button when you feel someone is being overly inconsiderate, foul, abusive, et cetera. If you feel that a CK/Admin would not permit it, warn.Also, if they are spamming horribly, you should use it. The warn button should not be used to be mean to a member in any way. That isn't nice.

4. How can a banned member get unbanned?
When Del Murder decides to pick a random member, of course! Or after the usual two years? and all the staff agreeing it would be okay. I think. Yeah.

5. What is EoFF's policy on cursing?
Go ahead, just do not go around the filters. They are there for a reason. And in the writing section, if there is a lot of profanity that you are posting, leave a warning in your title. Just remember to that there are young kids here as well.


6. Psychotic has found your old second account but thinks it belongs to crashNUMBARs. Would you, and if so how, inform him of the discrepancy? You still want to use the account in future.
Of course I would. I would PM him directly from my main account telling him so and asking if he could leave it intact.

7. crono_logical is injecting javascript into everyone's posts that makes pictures of penises and vaginas (nonos on eoff!) pop up on every thread. How do you confront him and get him banned, him being an administrator and you a lowly Cid's Knight who can't ban admin?
Well obviously I would tell him to knock it off. I would ask, but this is too serious. If he did nothing I would be forced to bring up the issue to the other admins who do have the power. I would also be sure to take the javascript out of the posts as soon as I could. Nonos are nonos.


8. rubah won't shut the smurf up. You're really tired of her spamming everywhere and you think it's giving the rest of the staff a bad, if rather active, name. How do you tell her children are better seen and not heard?
xD Spam harder! No, I kid. I kid. I tell her she is spamming overly much and it might just be giving up a not so great rep. Could she please tone it down. If she refuses, well, then I bring it up with everyone else.


9. Hsu hasn't performed a moderative action in a year. Pick a course of either trying to drive him off staff or drive him to activity and state how you would do it. Assume that Loony BoB is on your side and no one else is.
Me and Loony BoB will, through a joint effort, convince Rubah that Stu needs a little push to get him active again. If we could get Rubah on our side there would be no stopping us against Hsu. That is fact. This would likely be done through pms and immense bribery.


10. Congratulations! You've just been made a Cid's Knight and you've decided to host a EoFF meetup at your house to celebrate. While you and your fellow EoFF buddies are partying it up, several people manage to browse a bit through the staff forum via your personal computer. What do you do?
Why thank you for such an honor! Party at my house? I think so! Oh no, they somehow figured out my passwords and sneaked into the staff forum. Oh shoot. Not good. Now I must kill them and dispose of their bodies in the river. Or I suppose I could tell them that was a very large nono and temp ban them. But I would likely discuss it with you guys first, because that is a very sticky situation. After I changed all my passwords, of course. After all, the other CK's and Admins will have so much more experience for me to learn from.

[Kentarou]

1. When is double posting okay?

Double posting is fine very rarely. It is only okay if the thread double-posted in requires information updates on a regular basis, and a new post will alert other users of new information, such as with RPG's which are sometimes made by members of our site, or in this very competition, when Del Murder was updating the list of people going on.


2. What is the signature size limit?

According to the FAQ, the limits are a maximum width of 550 pixels, a maximum length of 250 pixels, and the total file size cannot exceed 50kiB.


3. When should the warn button be used and when should it not?

The Warn button should be used when a member is seen breaking a rule on EyesonFF by either members, or moderators. This button is not limited to a certain kind of member in any way. Generally, this means that you should use it when someone is being an un-warranted butt. However, it should not be used in cases where a member is merely coming off as mean, but isn't actually insulting you or someone else in some manner, it should NOT be used to alert moderators of things unrelated to the post, it should not be used jokingly, and it should not be used due to someone's religion or belief being different than your own.


4. How can a banned member get unbanned?

Banned members can be unbanned after a certain period of time, IF the staff agrees that the ban wasn't necessary or if the banned member has proven themselves to have changed from their bannable behavior.


5. What is EoFF's policy on cursing?

EyesonFF moderators normally disapprove of excessive or unneeded vulgarities, and cursing too much may land you a warning. However, cursing and allowing the word to be censored is fine.


6. Psychotic has found your old second account but thinks it belongs to crashNUMBARs. Would you, and if so how, inform him of the discrepancy? You still want to use the account in future.

I do not know why I would want to use this old account, but it was likely closed anyway if he believed it to belong to another member, so there would be no reason not to tell him, unless he decided to be a jerk and land the banhammer on me.


7. crono_logical is injecting javascript into everyone's posts that makes pictures of penises and vaginas (nonos on eoff!) pop up on every thread. How do you confront him and get him banned, him being an administrator and you a lowly Cid's Knight who can't ban admin?

I would likely Warn his posts in order to alert other moderators of his posts if they have not seen them yet, and then proceed to go into the Chat-Room to ensure that it's actually Crono_Logical doing this.


8. rubah won't shut the smurf up. You're really tired of her spamming everywhere and you think it's giving the rest of the staff a bad, if rather active, name. How do you tell her children are better seen and not heard?

I would likely make some sort of witty post in response to a single one of her posts to hint that she's being annoying.


9. Hsu hasn't performed a moderative action in a year. Pick a course of either trying to drive him off staff or drive him to activity and state how you would do it. Assume that Loony BoB is on your side and no one else is.

Loony BoB penetrated Hsu's account and did all sorts of moderating things to himself, himself being Hsu.

I wouldn't WANT to drive Hsu to do anything, but if I really had to, then I'd probably go with driving him to activity by sending him an encouraging PM of sorts.


10. Congratulations! You've just been made a Cid's Knight and you've decided to host a EoFF meetup at your house to celebrate. While you and your fellow EoFF buddies are partying it up, several people manage to browse a bit through the staff forum via your personal computer. What do you do?

I share the Staff porn with them.

I'd probably advise them away from secret stuff (if there is any), but otherwise, I wouldn't really mind. From what I hear, that place is boring.

[Goldenboko]

1. When is double posting okay?

Double posting is okay in a few different times. Double posting is perfectly acceptable when updating a work in the Writer’s Corner; note this does not mean you may bump a thread with a message like "OMG SOMEONE RESPOND!", but if you have a new Chapter to post you are more then welcome to post it even if you have the last post. This rule applies to all other projects, whether or not they are in the Writer’s Corner (a good example would be oddler’s hero spirits.)

2. What is the signature size limit?

A max width of 550 pixels, max height of 250 pixel, including text outside the images and the file size of all images combined cannot be higher then 50 KB (Think I got that abbreviation right).

3. When should the warn button be used and when should it not?

The warn button should be used when a members has broken a rule listed in the Rules/FAQ that has yet to be fixed/commented on by a CK or an Admin. The warn button should not be used if you do not like or do not agree with the person’s opinion.

4. How can a banned member get unbanned?

A banned may be unbanned if they appeal after two years of their banning and the staff forum has an unanimous vote to allow them back. Also, if you are less then 13 years old, and your posts clearly demonstrate you are not mature enough to post at EoFF, you may be banned until you are 13 years or older.

5. What is EoFF's policy on cursing?

Some cursing is okay, but once cursing has been deemed excessive (deemed as such by a staff member), then your post will be edited by a staff member to remove the swearing, repeated offenses will result in warnings, extreme cases, in bans.

6. Psychotic has found your old second account but thinks it belongs to crashNUMBARs. Would you, and if so how, inform him of the discrepancy? You still want to use the account in future.

I would immediately tell Psychotic that the old second account was mine. I wouldn’t want crash to be blamed for something that isn’t his fault, especially if I was to blame. I would probably PM him, so I can privately tell him about his mistake, seeing as I have already found out from personal experience that calling someone out in front of an entire forum (or in this case staff), is not the right thing to do before a PM.

7. crono_logical is injecting javascript into everyone's posts that makes pictures of penises and vaginas (nonos on eoff!) pop up on every thread. How do you confront him and get him banned, him being an administrator and you a lowly Cid's Knight who can't ban admin?

Obviously banning him by myself would be impossible. My first reaction, would probably to find another Admin, and get him to ban him. I probably wouldn’t confront him head on, because as an Admin if he really had gone haywire then he could remove my CK title, and ban me making me useless to the staff. Also, by going to an Admin, I could find out if there was some reason that he was not being banned that I, as a CK, wouldn’t know about, although if he had posted penis’s and vagina’s then there probably wouldn’t be a reason.

8. rubah won't shut the smurf up. You're really tired of her spamming everywhere and you think it's giving the rest of the staff a bad, if rather active, name. How do you tell her children are better seen and not heard?

I think I would PM rubah, and suggest that she tone it down because she is setting a bad example for other members, especially younger, more impressionable ones. If the problem continued to occur, then I would start, by going to another CK, or an Admin, and asking if they too feel it is a problem. If I get general disagreement, then I would stop, realizing that as long as the rest of the staff sees it isn’t setting a bad example, then it may just be a lapse of judgement. If after PMing a few I see some agreements, I would probably reattempt, to PM her one more time, before checking with the CKs one more time, and calling it out publicly (in the CK forum).

9. Hsu hasn't performed a moderative action in a year. Pick a course of either trying to drive him off staff or drive him to activity and state how you would do it. Assume that Loony BoB is on your side and no one else is.

In this situation I would probably start by bringing up the problem with the other staff members, saying that we shouldn’t keep Hsu on the staff just because he wants a shiny title. If you are a moderator, you should moderate. I would urge him to either A. Begin moderation, or B. Step down from the position. If he says he will start moderating, but doesn’t (we’ll say I said that he should have resolved the problem in a month), then I will bring up the problem with the staff again, restating my opinion, hoping to convince others that my opinion is right. Once I’ve convinced others to see my opinion, I think eventually others would give way. If I fail to convince others, then perhaps I should go back, and look if he has actually been failing his moderating duties, and prehaps, readjust my opinion.

10. Congratulations! You've just been made a Cid's Knight and you've decided to host a EoFF meetup at your house to celebrate. While you and your fellow EoFF buddies are partying it up, several people manage to browse a bit through the staff forum via your personal computer. What do you do?

My immediate action would be to switch my password, just in case a member viewed it, and to let the others know of the situation. I would recommend that the we send out PM’s to the possible people who have viewed asking them if they did in fact do this, if they answer yes, I would recommend, giving them a warning, but not to ban them, as it was my fault for leaving my password stored on my computer. If this event where to occur, it would’ve been entirely my fault, so I apologize, and tell the staff that I am ready to face any repercussions they wish to punish me with.