>> Do you really care about this game?.

>>> I was wondering about how many people really cares about this game..

BTW, I dont.

in before "i hate it because you have to pay to play"

I do really care about. If they fix even half of what's wrong with FFXI, i know i'll like it.

I may check it out then again I said that about XI and I spent an hour trying to figure out the controls and where I was supposed to go on like the 1-2nd quest and decided the game sucked so yeah...

FFXI had a steep learning curve. FFXIV won't have one that is quite as steep. In fact, it seems like they're going for quite the opposite.

it still yicks me offf that SE is puting online games in the main series, its idiotic if you ask me. why not just lable it FFO and FFO2, its make more sence.

XI = 12
XII = 13

wouldnt that make much more sence

Who cares, it's just a freaking name.

FFXI had a steep learning curve. FFXIV won't have one that is quite as steep. In fact, it seems like they're going for quite the opposite.

I really dont get how me not being able to find where to go simply b/c the npc doesnt give you directions and just tells you to go do whatever has to do with a learning curve...

I may check it out then again I said that about XI and I spent an hour trying to figure out the controls and where I was supposed to go on like the 1-2nd quest and decided the game sucked so yeah...

Controls were odd for me at first too, but I suppose that's why there's a manual.

There's no such thing as a 1st and second quest really, there's about 30 quests available from the start in each city, each in varying difficulty. Some will be harder than others and some will be vaguer than others. While some quests will leave you relying on checking the internet, there's also many quests that tells you exactly what to do.

That said, FFXI is not a game everyone will like..

and yeah, I care, I'm definitely going to get a trial version if that's possible from launch. If not I'll probably get it anyway and cancel if it turns out absolutely horrible, which I doubt it will.

I'm pretty excited to try it out.

When it comes out, if the reviews are good, I will see if I can get it, so yes.

Well never played 11 so will probably try the trial for this when it comes out. You can do a lot in those 7-10 days.

If I have the dough, this game looks pretty sweet.

And for the whiners who say the online games shouldn't be part of the main series, just because you actually have to interact on some level with other people does not make it any less of a Final Fantasy. In fact, if anything FFVII and FVIII and even X should not be part of the main series as their worlds are all MUCH different than the standard traditional medieval settings, and that's a MUCH bigger difference than online play. Fact of the matter, Square can name their games anything they damn well want. They're working on XIII and XIV at approximately the same time to please everyone, so stop bitching.

By the way, this is coming from someone who has never played an online game in his life, and is a fan of FFVII and FFX.

More than FFXIII actually.

FFXI is amazing, and FFXIV will be an FFXI I'll have the time to experience the beauty of.

Very excited. Played FFXI for around 6 years too.

I look forward to playing it, definitely. While I agree that FFO and FFO2 would have made more sense, I don't really care at all and can understand that they would have had problems dealing with the fact that there is already a website called FFO that has been around for a very long time. It would be like them calling a game Eyes on Final Fantasy - I mean, I'm sure we wouldn't mind, but SE probably would have some issues somewhere along the line.

I've had a lot of fun playing FFXI so it's worth trying out.

I know this is beating a dead horse, but I seriously don't see the issue with giving it a numbered title. Does it really pain people so much? I just don't understand how you can hate it... Literally don't understand, if someone can bring forth a valid arguement I might actually respect the opinion against it, otherwise really... really?

1) How would you feel if FF15 was released as a FPS? For some, including myself, the difference between FFOnline and FF is as stark as that. It doesn't upset me that much, but I don't feel it appropriate naming nomenclature. FFT is my favorite game of all time, but I think having it released as FF8 (I think it came out slightly after 7, don't remember) would fit in very well.

2) It has to do with the development cycle. If we were to get a new numbered FF, say, every 3 years, making an online FF would mean on offline offering for 6 years. I know it isn't as simple as this, but the feeling that I have to sit out a game and wait for the next one isn't something I relish.

That being said, anyone who gets seriously upset about the naming of a video game needs to get a life.

1) How would you feel if FF15 was released as a FPS? For some, including myself, the difference between FFOnline and FF is as stark as that. It doesn't upset me that much, but I don't feel it appropriate naming nomenclature. FFT is my favorite game of all time, but I think having it released as FF8 (I think it came out slightly after 7, don't remember) would fit in very well.

Considering MMORPG is an RPG, it's a bit of a different comparison (people really just bitch about the monthly fee part anyway). However, I would simple say (just as I did with FF7:DoC) that I wouldn't play it and move on.

2) It has to do with the development cycle. If we were to get a new numbered FF, say, every 3 years, making an online FF would mean on offline offering for 6 years. I know it isn't as simple as this, but the feeling that I have to sit out a game and wait for the next one isn't something I relish.

Actually... they have different teams working on FFXI and FFXIV, so the development cycle point is pretty much nothing. FFXIV is going to be released in the same year as FFXIII so there is no real issue. People have the misconception of how big Square-Enix is. They don't just have one team working on all their games one after the other - they have heaps of teams working on different things all at the same time.

1) They may 'both be RPGs', but nowadays the spectrum of what is called an RPG is so imense that the label almost means nothing. I'm not really a very social gamer, so the difference between a single player RPG and a single player FPS is about equal to that between single player and mmo. (I'm not hating on MMOs, I have played some and enjoyed it, but it was something completely different to me.)

2) Different development teams my be involved, but there is no way you can't tell me developing 3 games (FF13,14Online,15) will take just as long as developing two. (FF13, FF14Offline). I bring this up, as I mentioned earlier, for someone like me having a FF14Online is like having them skip a game in the series, so after 13 I have to wait extra long for the next 'real' FF. Granted developing it under the name FFOnline 2 wouldn't make FF14Offline come any faster, but aving it named FF14 just serves to rub it in our faces how much longer it will be to FF15.

Hope that last paragraph made sense.

Actually, sometimes a game won't be done very much faster just by throwing more manpower at it. It's not unlikely that three fairly big teams can work a lot more efficiently than 2 very large teams, and thus get more projects done per employee.

Personally, I can't wait to play it. At the end of the day it's a FF. Whether I'll continue to do so depends on whether I'll enjoy the game.

If Aion doesnt screw things up hardcore like AoC and Warhammer did, maybe it'll actually compare to WoW. If not, maybe this will be the first mmo to actually challenge it? I'd like to see how this does.

Actually, sometimes a game won't be done very much faster just by throwing more manpower at it. It's not unlikely that three fairly big teams can work a lot more efficiently than 2 very large teams, and thus get more projects done per employee.

Absolutely true, but the upper level design talent is also a finite group of people, and they can only do one thing at a time. Hiring two teams of programmers isn't nearly as difficult as hiring two high quality game designers.

In terms of sense from SE's perspective I agree 100% with naming it FF14. Having it as a numbered FF will increase sales prospects significantly. Ultimately it is SE's game, and I have no objections to them doing what they want with it. I was just voicing reasons I thought not having it a numbered FF seemed more appropriate to me.

It could also be noted that the name means nothing as to how much work will be required and how many people will be working on it, or even who will be working on it. So yeah they could have named it Doop Doop the Moose in Djibouti but this wouldn't have made any difference whatsoever to any game's timescales.

Who cares, it's just a freaking name.
Who cares? Obviously the man does as you read his post. The name matters to him me, and may others because we have a great attachment to the series. When you grow up we something and seeing at as one of the best things in the world and when you see things are coupled in that don't really fit into the premise of what we ensure what this series stands for, we feel reluctant to that change. Like a little jab at me heart. To me it would seem like giving Tactics or a Chocobo's Dungeon game an official numbered title when they are indeed of different genres like XI and XIV from the rest of the series.

I do not care too much for this one myself. For one I won't be able to play it because I won't be able to afford it and secondly it doesn't look much different than XI to me. It looks like it is possibly in the same world so would it follow similar patterns? The major thing for me is the inability to play it.

idc about the name and I grew up with FF *shrug* Maybe it's just people that are too picky. It's still an rpg so it's not there's a real reason to feel like someone should have to defend why they gave it a number.

Absolutely true, but the upper level design talent is also a finite group of people, and they can only do one thing at a time. Hiring two teams of programmers isn't nearly as difficult as hiring two high quality game designers.


Actually, they do have a vast range of lead roles in each department.

The ignorance in this thread makes me sad.

:(

And yet again Depression Moon's post made no sense and had no grounding.

:(

I'm not looking forward to this game. Though it's not a reflection on the game itself, I just lack the money to pay for the fee, the game itself and a decent internet connection on which to play it.

If I had money (and perhaps time) then I would probably look forward to it quite a bit. I like MMORPGs but never really had the opportunity to play them.

The complaining about the name? Probably stems from their completionist attitudes. They want to say they've beat all the games in the main series, or at least own them. What good is owning a game you can't/don't want to play?

Doesn't bother me in the slightest. Hell, I bought FFXI anyway. It's been taken out of it's case once :D

It doesn't cost more than a burger a month. Well, a good burger anyway :p.

To put things in perspective,my brother spends at least twice the monthly fee on alcohol when he goes to a party, and he does this at least twice a month. It's nothing but a matter of priorities, I would say. He's not a particulary rich guy either.

A well put post, Mirage. I agree with all points.

Basically, it's worth putting money into something you can enjoy. What you enjoy and what it's worth to you come down to the person and their financial situation.

I don't care about it because I know I would get addicted and not want to do anything else. My personality just gets far too addicted to stuff like this, like unreasonably and life interfering. I don't need to jump into that messy business.

The ignorance in this thread makes me sad.

:(

And yet again Depression Moon's post made no sense and had no grounding.

:(


How not so you may have to read it again. Emotion is the reason why we're all here today it fuels everything in this world the actions we take, everything and emotion is the reason why we have opinions on things. It is hard to argue this pulsating bloody organ in our bodies. I only gave you written truth.

Some people still manage to be rational about certain things, such as well, the title of a video game.

I'm really looking forward to this, I never started playing FFXI until after it's heydey and there weren't any other low level players to group with so the game was impossible to level in.

The main gripe I have with MMO's is that they get very repitive, sure you get hundreds more hours of gameplay compared to a single player game, yet when it's all the same it doesn't really matter.

I still care and I will care until it comes out. Then I will see if I care any further.

idk why...but all the people who are so advent and upset about the online games being in the main series remind of those people who yell at foreigners and say "they took er jobs!"

I know weird comparison but still....

anyway i am so stoked about this game I cant stand it!! I will be on the first day the public version is launch!

(btw if ff15 ends up being a fps, dang it, Ill shoot up chocobos, summons, and corny antagonist all day long! as long as SE did it)

I am and im not.
I'm not looking forward to the game as I didn't like FFXI.
However
I am looking forward to it to see comparison between the two.
To see if its better in any way.

In any way? Well, the graphics will be better. That much we all know. :p

I have a feeling SE has learned a lot in the past 7+ years.

Everytime they make a change too FFXI it seems to be for the better, so starting from scratch really has some potential IMO.