| Goldenboko 07-26-2007, 09:15 PM I was scrollin' through the FAQ when I found this (http://forums.eyesonff.com/faq.php?faq=vb_user_maintain#faq_vb_cust om_status)
July 1, 2007 and onwards, you may change your username ONLY ONCE...if approved. PM Leeza regarding name changes. Second/multiple accounts are not permitted so please do not make a new account in order to change your name.
This rule is a bit overboard what do you possibly gain from this? Plus not only can you not change your name more then once anymore but it needs to be approved? What the heck is that suppose to mean? Why bother not letting us change our name? How does that hurt the forum? And does that mean I'm stuck as "Babyboko"? (Damn you Shlup). rubah 07-26-2007, 09:19 PM I think that joke name changes are exempt.
You've had to have them approved since forever :p
People should pick a nice handle that suits them and use that. If they don't realize what that is when they register, they're allowed to change it when they find out what it is:p
Most fora I've been to didn't allow name changes period, so:p Goldenboko 07-26-2007, 09:20 PM I think that joke name changes are exempt.
You've had to have them approved since forever :p
People should pick a nice handle that suits them and use that. If they don't realize what that is when they register, they're allowed to change it when they find out what it is:p
Most fora I've been to didn't allow name changes period, so:p
EoFF shouldn't be "most forums." Being different makes things awesome. rubah 07-26-2007, 09:53 PM Yeah well when I'm admin I'll be willing to change names all the time!
jk maybe Goldenboko 07-26-2007, 09:55 PM My question still stands in what is so bad about being able to change your name every once and a while. Behold the Void 07-26-2007, 09:56 PM It pisses BoB off. Miriel 07-26-2007, 10:00 PM I don't understand why it's so hard to pick a name and stick with it. Flying Mullet 07-26-2007, 10:01 PM It pisses BoB off.
And "If Mama Ain't Happy, Ain't Nobody Happy". Goldenboko 07-26-2007, 10:03 PM I don't understand why it's so hard to pick a name and stick with it.
It was fun to see people who could never stick with a name though ;o
Besides there are times when name changes are completely justifiable. For example one of my friends started going somewhere when he was like 12, being 15 now he realizes how awful his name was, but since name changes aren't allowed there he can't do anything about it. I see how that should cause problems. In that case, we should require members to be at least 15 years old before then can join, so that by the time they are 18 and realize how awful their username is, they'll be able to cope with it! Miriel 07-26-2007, 10:14 PM But name changes ARE allowed here. Just not a name change whenever the hell you feel like it. fire_of_avalon 07-26-2007, 10:22 PM The point is we don't want the admins to get swamped with a bunch of people who change their name like they change their underwear. Additionally, people who have lots of name changes are harder to keep track of if they've received warnings. I think maybe we should allow name changes once per year, but after two or three name changes, that's it.
And of course, joke names an admin puts on you don't count. Goldenboko 07-26-2007, 10:31 PM Well thats not what the FAQ seems to say.
As of July 1, 2007 each member will be allowed one name change and ONLY ONE name change for the rest of their stay at EoFF... regardless of how long you have been registered. So, if you go this route you better be sure of what you decide on because it will be your FINAL username. However, regardless of this rule, members that already have well-established usernames might get their request refused.
It just sounds like you aren't tolarating change at all. fire_of_avalon 07-26-2007, 10:32 PM Uh, that's because it's my opinion, boko, not the rule. See up there where I said "I think"? That means "I am of the opinion that." Derp. Goldenboko 07-26-2007, 10:35 PM Oh sorry I skim, I dun read. In that case it seems like this was made a rule without any deliberation. I think the rules should be loosened a bit. I was talking to Eileen and her name change was denied because she was "well-established" and it would cause "confusion". When thats not really the case, because most of the fora knows her as Eileen or Leen-Leen or whatever as well as innocentenshi7. rubah 07-26-2007, 10:41 PM That's because leeza has a weird sense of 'established' ;)
Also I have no idea who eileen is but I do recognize the name innocentenshi7! not that it makes any difference (: Psychotic 07-27-2007, 12:02 AM Let's set it so that you have to pay $4 per user name change. Problem solved. Goldenboko 07-27-2007, 12:04 AM Let's set it so that you have to pay $4 per user name change. Problem solved.
I like that idea less :tongue:
I never had a problem with the 1 change per 8 months. This new ONLY ONE EVER!!!!!!!!!! is a bit rash and stupid IMO. Name changes never caused problems on the fora. rubah 07-27-2007, 12:05 AM not for you :p Miriel 07-27-2007, 12:26 AM Let's set it so that you have to pay $4 per user name change. Problem solved.
I like that idea less :tongue:
I never had a problem with the 1 change per 8 months. This new ONLY ONE EVER!!!!!!!!!! is a bit rash and stupid IMO. Name changes never caused problems on the fora.
Why is it rash?
Changing usernames = confusing and annoying
Not changeing usernames = yay! Behold the Void 07-27-2007, 12:33 AM Personally I don't mind once every 8 months, I just wish we'd keep a running list in staff like we were starting to do so one could keep up with all of it. Goldenboko 07-27-2007, 12:56 AM Let's set it so that you have to pay $4 per user name change. Problem solved.
I like that idea less :tongue:
I never had a problem with the 1 change per 8 months. This new ONLY ONE EVER!!!!!!!!!! is a bit rash and stupid IMO. Name changes never caused problems on the fora.
Why is it rash?
Changing usernames = confusing and annoying
Not changeing usernames = yay!
Rash: marked by or proceeding from undue haste or lack of deliberation or caution
Seeing as even mods don't seem to have a great reason to back up this rule, it seems to have been made in lack of deliberation, or have been a "rash" decision. How is it confusing? Are we saying we should be making easier for lazy people who can't bother to look at the Formerly section of people's profile?
Personally I don't mind once every 8 months, I just wish we'd keep a running list in staff like we were starting to do so one could keep up with all of it.
To make it easier on the admins we could just make a thread where people ask. Shoeberto 07-27-2007, 01:19 AM The chain of events went something like this:
- Admins got tired of changing names to stupid things all the time.
- Kishi took over name-changing duties as judge and jury as to whether or not they were worthwhile. Then he stopped coming to EoFF.
- Leeza took over name changing duties but didn't want to do them all the time so she made this rule.
So basically I should be an admin. Goldenboko 07-27-2007, 01:22 AM So basically its all Leeza's fault? xD
Why don't we try a different idea? Kishi doing it worked for a good while, I think we can work this out dammit! Psychotic 07-27-2007, 01:22 AM Yeah well when I'm admin I'll be willing to change names all the time!So basically I should be an admin.We need an admin election! We can kick Kishi and BoB off staff to make room. oddler 07-27-2007, 01:31 AM It used to be 6 months, not 8, and I agree with that time limit. Name changes must be annoying but it is rather nice EoFF allows them at all. Goldenboko 07-27-2007, 01:57 AM Apparently if you're "Established" you can't change your name either... What is that suppose to mean?
Yeah well when I'm admin I'll be willing to change names all the time!So basically I should be an admin.We need an admin election! We can kick Kishi and BoB off staff to make room.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x72/TheFonz2010/5ab4257d-1.jpg Jessweeee♪ 07-27-2007, 02:16 AM I thought the six month limit was nice...I think we should be allowed three name changes and that's it...EVAR...This rule change doesn't effect me, but I'm sure a lot of other members won't like it :P rubah 07-27-2007, 02:19 AM The formerly field doesnt' get filled out automatically.
Admin are lazy.
How many admin do you think actually fill out the formerly field?! Goldenboko 07-27-2007, 02:22 AM The formerly field doesnt' get filled out automatically.
Admin are lazy.
How many admin do you think actually fill out the formerly field?!
I'd assume whoever was changing the name. Seeing as you're not talking to an admin how do you think I would know?
You've all been able to do it in the past, maybe y'all really do just need more admins... especially with the absense of Kishi and Samuriad.
This just seems ridiculous. Shlup can change like 10 peoples name in a matter of minutes, but collectively admins can't handle a few requests every now and then? Jessweeee♪ 07-27-2007, 02:24 AM Psy 4 Poop Admin rubah 07-27-2007, 02:44 AM Hello friends.
Greetings to you.
Vote for me.
I am ravishingly beautiful to behold. Goldenboko 07-27-2007, 02:50 AM Hello friends.
Greetings to you.
Vote for me.
I am ravishingly beautiful to behold.
I'm still on the subject of name changes >:[ Mirage 07-27-2007, 02:53 AM If it's hard to keep track of name changes, just make the previous names automatically appear below the signatures. I think the ability to change names once a year was nice. I never did use it, but I like having the possibility to change it to something random for a while, and then change it back. Del Murder 07-27-2007, 03:15 AM About a year ago Sean said he didn't want to allow name changes anymore because it would be hard to tell who certain established people were. This had merit, but some of us felt not allowing any changes at all was kind of harsh. Many elaborate plans (mostly proposed by guess who...Loony BoB) were tossed around, and eventually kishi took it upon himself to be the sole name changer and to make sure no stupid changes got made. This worked for everyone. Unfortunately kishi has been away for some time. During this time Leeza has been kind enough to fill in for him. Also during this time she (or someone) proposed the current rule that is in the FAQ. It must have caught us on a bleary day because it made it through.
I'm inclined to agree with those who have said the current rule is too harsh. We will discuss this in Staff and try to come up with a compromise. Goldenboko 07-27-2007, 03:18 AM I'm inclined to agree with those who have said the current rule is too harsh. We will discuss this in Staff and try to come up with a compromise.
One of my threads made change...
I think I'm having a heartattack....
(In that case this could probably be closed) I still think it is good to have some kind of limit, though. Goldenboko 07-27-2007, 03:35 AM I still think it is good to have some kind of limit, though.
In the past we had a 6/8 month limit. I still think it was perfectly fine with that. Yamaneko 07-27-2007, 08:23 AM Just make it once a year and be done with it. Meat Puppet 07-27-2007, 09:26 AM Psychotic’s idea of charging people for name changes is a good one. I support, whether he was serious or not (and as long as he isn’t paid royalties or whatnot). Burtsplurt 07-27-2007, 02:23 PM Premium members get unlimited name changes! Or maybe not.
I think whatever the admins are cool with is fine. I know I probably couldn't be bothered changing someone's name if they had signed up as Squall89_4eva. Anyway, your name kind of defines you on messageboards - I don't think it should really be changed. Yamaneko 07-27-2007, 08:18 PM Psychotic’s idea of charging people for name changes is a good one. I support, whether he was serious or not (and as long as he isn’t paid royalties or whatnot).
This is not a good idea. Sufjan (Fonzie) 07-27-2007, 08:46 PM I'm done changing my names, this one suits myself well. Psychotic 07-28-2007, 12:44 AM Psychotic’s idea of charging people for name changes is a good one. I support, whether he was serious or not (and as long as he isn’t paid royalties or whatnot).
This is not a good idea.It's not ideal, but it's better than one name change and then no more. Goldenboko 07-28-2007, 12:49 AM Psychotic’s idea of charging people for name changes is a good one. I support, whether he was serious or not (and as long as he isn’t paid royalties or whatnot).
This is not a good idea.It's not ideal, but it's better than one name change and then no more.
But its worse for kids who can't convince their parents to use their credit cards. Yamaneko 07-28-2007, 12:53 AM Psychotic’s idea of charging people for name changes is a good one. I support, whether he was serious or not (and as long as he isn’t paid royalties or whatnot).
This is not a good idea.It's not ideal, but it's better than one name change and then no more.
Or we could allow name changes every eight or twelve months. It's not like we've been backed into a corner and our only option is to charge people for something that has always been free. Psychotic 07-28-2007, 12:53 AM But its worse for kids who can't convince their parents to use their credit cards.Not especially, as you would still get at least the first one free.Or we could allow name changes every eight or twelve months. It's not like we've been backed into a corner and our only option is to charge people for something that has always been free.F'sure, I agree with you on that (personally I'm all for bringing back the old once every three/six months thing), but this is just a compromise I'm tossing out there, and I would rather have it than only one per lifetime. Goldenboko 07-28-2007, 12:54 AM Psychotic’s idea of charging people for name changes is a good one. I support, whether he was serious or not (and as long as he isn’t paid royalties or whatnot).
This is not a good idea.It's not ideal, but it's better than one name change and then no more.
Or we could allow name changes every eight or twelve months. It's not like we've been backed into a corner and our only option is to charge people for something that has always been free.
...Yeah what he said! Loony BoB 07-28-2007, 01:34 AM Just when I get used to calling my friends by a certain name, they change it, and I hate that. Then I start accidentally calling them the new name on occasion, and I don't like that because I think the new name sucks, but I'm still using it sometimes! I still use the other one most of the time, though, so it's okay. Then they change their name again, and I end up using one name around half the time, one name around a third of the time and one name around one sixth of the time! It gets worse. Dan Majin Kyono DK Loki homotwat.
Bring back BM121 and Majin-Squall, I say. Del Murder 07-28-2007, 02:53 AM Would you like some cheese to go with that whine? Loony BoB 07-28-2007, 02:55 AM Sure. Jessweeee♪ 07-28-2007, 03:44 AM Well....at least we had the one name change...I didn't want to be stuck with Jesse1 forever :P Goldenboko 07-28-2007, 03:51 AM Yeah but it seems the admins want to take that away from us. Innocentenshi7 has been denied a name change and she's yet to have one. Leeza 07-28-2007, 04:52 AM Personally I don't mind once every 8 months, I just wish we'd keep a running list in staff like we were starting to do so one could keep up with all of it.
I have a running list in Staff. At least of every name that I have changed. :)
The chain of events went something like this:
- Admins got tired of changing names to stupid things all the time.
- Kishi took over name-changing duties as judge and jury as to whether or not they were worthwhile. Then he stopped coming to EoFF.
- Leeza took over name changing duties but didn't want to do them all the time so she made this rule.
Umm... Nope, if I didn't want to do them, I wouldn't do them. :) The rule was made because you guys were bitching about some of the names that I <i>did</i> allow. :)
I like this rule. And foa's last post here explains just why innocentenshi7 should stay as innocentenshi7. :) Goldenboko 07-28-2007, 05:04 AM I like this rule. And foa's last post here explains just why innocentenshi7 should stay as innocentenshi7. :)
...Which is post is that? Leeza 07-28-2007, 05:07 AM Sorry, I meant rubah's, not foa's. :)
Also I have no idea who eileen is but I do recognize the name innocentenshi7! not that it makes any difference (: Goldenboko 07-28-2007, 05:28 AM Sorry, I meant rubah's, not foa's. :)
Also I have no idea who eileen is but I do recognize the name innocentenshi7! not that it makes any difference (:
That doesn't seem like a real solid reason to make such an sudden change. Lots of people who've been on EoFF for a long time have changed their names, can you name a time its caused chaos? Sufjan (Fonzie) 07-28-2007, 06:01 AM It really shouldn't matter if you're name shouldn't change for the simple reason that you're used to it the way it is.
Just because you recognize it the way it is, doesn't mean that they shouldn't get to change it. Meat Puppet 07-28-2007, 06:43 AM Hmm.
To be honest, I don’t actually care that much about people changing their own names. Psychotic’s idea seems good, but if it’s a problem, I’m not bothered. This new rule does not bother me either, even if I do think people should have control over their name. I’m just not a name changing guy! But... it would be nice if, with this new rule, joke name changes could be outlawed. Perhaps with some kind of punishment unto the Administrator that commits the (what will hopefully be) foul act? Temporary removal from office, or something like that. Shemhazai 07-28-2007, 06:47 AM thats quite true, I'll probably end up changing my name sometime ( i hope not, but i know myself too well :P)
If you gave a good solid reason for the change then i would be contended but to my knowledge there hasnt so i'm slightly annoyed by this (and yes i am new but i can have an opinion) Del Murder 07-28-2007, 10:21 AM Joke name changes have been around forever, they don't happen that often, and they're gone after about a day. We punished Shlup in her own way but I doubt she learned her lesson, and there's no reason why she should anyway. Sorry if it causes you any trouble.
The name changing rule will probably go back to the way it was before. 'At our discretion after some approximate time' (credit: Void), meaning you can only have a change after a large amount of time has passed since the last change (6-8 months), and we will have final say on new name approval. If you are an established member and you pick a stupid name, it will get denied. Baloki 07-28-2007, 11:05 AM If you are an established member and you pick a stupid name, it will get denied.
My last name change was stupid and it got approved :( That might have been punishment for something though :( theundeadhero 07-28-2007, 12:41 PM The point is we don't want the admins to get swamped with a bunch of people who change their name like they change their underwear.People only change their underwear every six to eight months.
This thread greatly upsets me because I really wanted to change my name to theundeadjojee Levian 07-28-2007, 01:07 PM I want to be Debbie :mad2: Goldenboko 07-28-2007, 02:45 PM If you are an established member and you pick a stupid name, it will get denied.
Perhaps you could just be a bit more specific whats a "Stupid Name?"
Because when my friend PuPu first saw my name was Goldenboko he said "That's stupid" xD Loony BoB 07-28-2007, 04:16 PM Put it this way: If everyone knows you by your username already, and the username isn't something like "Vivi_FFIX" then don't count on getting it changed. The general idea is to encourage people to find a name they can get well known by and then stick with it, rather than giving people the idea that changing your username is like changing your sig - just because you're going to use a new profile set for a year doesn't mean you need a new username to go with it.
Look at it this way.
Avatar & Sig = Clothes.
Username = Real name.
You can change your real name but doing it on a regular basis is obviously just annoying and confusing to your friends and family. I figure username follows the same dealio, although obviously not to such a great extent as very few people in the real world change their name once a year. So if your name is Goldenboko and everyone has just gotten used to calling you that and you've just become established, changing username is a backwards step that I don't want people to take unless they have a pretty good reason for it.
Good examples of poor username changes by established members include Genius Lynx changing to Chocolate Locke Thief and Jojo changing to Monkey and whatever that other username she had was. Raistlin 07-28-2007, 05:22 PM *Chocolate Thief Locke. Geez, BooB, get it right. Loony BoB 07-28-2007, 05:29 PM Different order, same crap! Del Murder 07-28-2007, 07:44 PM I don't agree with BoB on this one, but I think I'm in the minority. As long as the Formerly Field is filled out properly it shouldn't be a big deal. I think this is escalating into a bigger deal than it is.
Examples of stupid changes:
Ouch! -> 'ch!
theundeadhero -> theundeadjojee
All of Rainecloud's changes
In general you will not know if a change is stupid until you ask for it. That's just something you'll have to live with. Stupid will be determined in the eyes of the staff and that is non-negotiable. Goldenboko 07-28-2007, 07:57 PM I agree with Del.
No one's gonna get confused as long as there is a formerly field. And when it comes down to it, names aren't always the same even in real life. I used to always want to be called by my first name, now I have several nicknames that everyone seems to know. It never confused anyone, and I'm happy. demondude55 07-28-2007, 08:01 PM I agree with BoB If someone has one name they don't like they can correct it and thats done with no more confusion and everyone is happy. Goldenboko 07-28-2007, 08:04 PM I agree with BoB If someone has one name they don't like they can correct it and thats done with no more confusion and everyone is happy.
I thought thats what Del said :0 Noctiluca 07-28-2007, 08:04 PM If changing to a new one isn't a big deal, then why is sticking with one a big deal? The second option is easier on all around, so it seems like the winner to me. Goldenboko 07-28-2007, 08:13 PM If changing to a new one isn't a big deal, then why is sticking with one a big deal? The second option is easier on all around, so it seems like the winner to me.
Because your taking away the option of changing names for people who really do want to have their names changed....
Anyway I methinks this argument is scaling out of control, I think the rule should just go back to how it was because there was never really a good reason to change it. rubah 07-28-2007, 08:44 PM Good examples of poor username changes by established members include Genius Lynx changing to Chocolate Locke Thief and Jojo changing to Monkey and whatever that other username she had was.
Someone obviously never played ff6! Loony BoB 07-29-2007, 02:03 AM I agree with BoB If someone has one name they don't like they can correct it and thats done with no more confusion and everyone is happy.
I thought thats what Del said :0
I didn't say people could never change their name, I just said it shouldn't be something that gets changed just for the hell of it fitting in with a new look they have going for a year. In other words, don't change your name unless you intend on sticking with it.
I've played FFVI! I think I got at least 20 hours into it. Hard to say though, it was some time ago. Nantuko 07-29-2007, 02:21 AM Hmm I wanted to change my name, hasn't been changed for over 2 years but I got denied. I also don't really agree with this rule, I should be able to name myself whatever I want it to be, within reason, and I don't think I should be restricted to keeping my name the same just because other people get confused as to who I am.
No offense Leeza. :P Heath 07-29-2007, 02:38 AM Hmm I wanted to change my name, hasn't been changed for over 2 years but I got denied. I also don't really agree with this rule, I should be able to name myself whatever I want it to be, within reason, and I don't think I should be restricted to keeping my name the same just because other people get confused as to who I am.
No offense Leeza. :P
Eh. At the end of the day it's their choice if they want to change it for you. I don't necessarily agree with it, but ultimately it's up to them whether they do something or not.
Also, out of interest, what is my 'established' name? Kuja? Heath? Lampshade? Leeza 07-29-2007, 04:22 AM As other Staff have said here, the name changing rule will be altered somewhat in order that name changes could still be made every once in a while. The rest still pretty much stands. Silly/stupid/joke/nonsensical names will still be denied. Established members might get their request denied. As Heath has said, at the end of the day it's the Staff's choice if they want to change it for you.
Heath, I know you only as Heath. Although I do remember Kuja, I did not know that Heath used to be Kuja until much later. :) Jessweeee♪ 07-29-2007, 04:58 AM Sounds good to me n.n Nantuko 07-29-2007, 06:36 AM So basically only new people who have recently joined and haven't made a name for themselves can get a name change? That's alittle unfair. What about the people who have been here for years, who determines if a name is established or not? Wouldn't anyone who has been here for awhile be "established" ? I say just not change names at all if that's the way it'll be because if you need a name change so soon then something is wrong.
The way I look at this is, people who disappear and ditch EoFF get rewarded and get the chance to have a name change, yet the "established" people have to suffer if they wanted a name change. How exactly is that right? Del Murder 07-29-2007, 07:00 AM How much are you suffering though, really? so I'm forever to be Bert!? Jessweeee♪ 07-29-2007, 07:42 AM Bert's a kewl name! blackmage_nuke 07-29-2007, 08:07 AM I think if someone changes their name their join date should change to the date they changed their name, so they'd be like noobs and treated as such (that's awkwardly), new name my foot Mirage 07-29-2007, 08:39 AM I disagree. I would just make it so the previous forum name would be displayed below the signature for a while, for example 6 months. That way, no one would wonder who it is, and there would be less misunderstandings. Del Murder 07-29-2007, 08:40 AM Hmm, that's an interesting idea. Jessweeee♪ 07-29-2007, 08:45 AM I disagree. I would just make it so the previous forum name would be displayed below the signature for a while, for example 6 months. That way, no one would wonder who it is, and there would be less misunderstandings.
Oooooh, can they do that? That would be cool! Miriel 07-29-2007, 08:56 AM so I'm forever to be Bert!?
Bert, you are never allowed to change your username EVER again. Loony BoB 07-29-2007, 10:21 AM Hmm I wanted to change my name, hasn't been changed for over 2 years but I got denied. I also don't really agree with this rule, I should be able to name myself whatever I want it to be, within reason, and I don't think I should be restricted to keeping my name the same just because other people get confused as to who I am.
No offense Leeza. :P
Well of course the people who get their requests denies are going to not like the rule. :p But we've been declining name change requests from established members for a lot longer than just recently.
Bert is Bert, definitely. Peegee 07-29-2007, 12:08 PM Apparently (not naming names) I was told that the rationale is (as stated) that your established name is who you are, and wantonly changing it doesn't help. Like if PG were to change his name to 'Moo Moo the Ner Cow' because there's an esoteric reference that he insists that cows don't moo, they ner, it doesn't help anybody who didn't read that obscure thread (I don't even know where that thread is).
Also I don't think being warned (like no access to EoEo for you!) or having warnings (like two strikes) carries over on a name change :o theundeadhero 07-29-2007, 03:41 PM Maybe Jojee thinks you're stupid :( Baloki 07-29-2007, 04:24 PM Hmm I wanted to change my name, hasn't been changed for over 2 years but I got denied. I also don't really agree with this rule, I should be able to name myself whatever I want it to be, within reason, and I don't think I should be restricted to keeping my name the same just because other people get confused as to who I am.
No offense Leeza. :P
Well of course the people who get their requests denies are going to not like the rule. :p But we've been declining name change requests from established members for a lot longer than just recently.
Bert is Bert, definitely.
It's a pity your not a CK anymore so we can say "Send all name change requests to Loony BoB", now we have to say send hate mail to you instead :(
Also I could change my nick :p Nantuko 07-29-2007, 08:29 PM Hmm I wanted to change my name, hasn't been changed for over 2 years but I got denied. I also don't really agree with this rule, I should be able to name myself whatever I want it to be, within reason, and I don't think I should be restricted to keeping my name the same just because other people get confused as to who I am.
No offense Leeza. :P
Well of course the people who get their requests denies are going to not like the rule. :p But we've been declining name change requests from established members for a lot longer than just recently.
Bert is Bert, definitely.
Okay, well, how come admins can do it then? Sure, they're admins, they decide the rules and everything, but if you're going to set a rule on the forums, they should have to obey it as well, everyone should be treated equally. You won't see an admin posting porn, would you? Their name change won't affect the forum like porn would, but they're most definitely an established member, so what makes them different than a normal member? Loony BoB 07-29-2007, 08:40 PM Cid, clout, Murd, Kishi, Leeza, myself, Michael, Roogle, Warren and Yamaneko have all not changed names since the new rule came into enforcement - in fact, I think it would be a long time since any of us changed names and most of us are still using the names we registered with... as for Shlup, she abused her power (as we all do on occasion) and got scolded for it. The current username as far as I know was not actually implemented by herself but rather another admin, so this shows that while one admin can abuse power to change other people's usernames without permission, another admin can do the same to them. I'll change her name back now if you want, if it's causing problems. Just say the word.
More to the point: Perk of the job. And expect power abuse from time to time - without it, we'd never have any 'fond memories' of banfests which people so often talk about. This is something that has always been around at EoFF, although it happens far less often than it used to, I have to say. Psychotic 07-29-2007, 08:53 PM Speaking of power abuse and name changes, will one of you hurry up and fix those godawful Baby names already? Roogle 07-29-2007, 08:54 PM Yes, I have been using this forum account for over five years, and I don't see any particular reason to change my username.
If this continues to be such a problem with the membership, maybe I should propose that only premium members be allowed to change their names at all. Please be civil about this — I don't think that a topic about name changes should be this long or tense. Loony BoB 07-29-2007, 08:55 PM Speaking of power abuse and name changes, will one of you hurry up and fix those godawful Baby names already?
I thought Shlup would have done that by now. I told you guys we should have kept her restricted to CK level! Behold the Void 07-29-2007, 09:05 PM Speaking of power abuse and name changes, will one of you hurry up and fix those godawful Baby names already?
I thought Shlup would have done that by now. I told you guys we should have kept her restricted to CK level!
I advocate Shlup as admin specifically FOR this kind of thing. rubah 07-29-2007, 09:12 PM no kidding! Leen-Leen 07-29-2007, 10:28 PM I actually wasn't aware there was such a rule until I looked in the FAQ to see who I had to PM to request a name change. I kind of always wanted to change my username ever since I found out you could. I just wanted to take a long time to think up of a name make sure I liked it enough to make it a username!
But I would think that if you were "well-established" enough, people would catch on quickly that you had changed your username, wouldn't they? Del Murder 07-29-2007, 10:46 PM Probably. Sufjan (Fonzie) 07-29-2007, 10:51 PM More then likely. Goldenboko 07-29-2007, 11:06 PM Thats a pretty good point :P
There's really little discussion on the topic left until we hear what the official word on the matter is. Baloki 07-29-2007, 11:36 PM Shlup and her buns are just that ace :p Loony BoB 07-30-2007, 01:09 AM I actually wasn't aware there was such a rule until I looked in the FAQ to see who I had to PM to request a name change. I kind of always wanted to change my username ever since I found out you could. I just wanted to take a long time to think up of a name make sure I liked it enough to make it a username!
But I would think that if you were "well-established" enough, people would catch on quickly that you had changed your username, wouldn't they?
Not always. I never knew Undying Angel or Blanco Meow changed their names until months/years after they'd done so. Goldenboko 07-30-2007, 01:35 AM I actually wasn't aware there was such a rule until I looked in the FAQ to see who I had to PM to request a name change. I kind of always wanted to change my username ever since I found out you could. I just wanted to take a long time to think up of a name make sure I liked it enough to make it a username!
But I would think that if you were "well-established" enough, people would catch on quickly that you had changed your username, wouldn't they?
Not always. I never knew Undying Angel or Blanco Meow changed their names until months/years after they'd done so.
We could make a stickied thread with name changes listed... I kinda like that idea :0 I think the six month name change system was a fair rule, and obviously the staff don't have to change people's names for them, but it's a nice gesture. It's silly to complain about "established" members changing their names. If a simple thread is used to keep track of name changes, it shouldn't be at all difficult to know who has changed their name to what, especially if one or two people are in charge of the operation.
It doesn't really matter much to me since I don't have any plan of changing my name, but I don't think the fact that people know me by one name should limit my ability to have it changed. I just don't see much sense in the logic of new people being able to have any silly name they want, but somebody who's been around for awhile who wants to change to a more lighthearted, goofy, or simply different name would be denied the option.
A stickied "Request a name change" thread in Feedback would allow anyone to see what's been changed, ruling out any legitimate complaints of "Wah my friend changed their name and I thought they went away forever ;(", though it would still leave the task of checking to make sure someone hasn't had a name change in six months up to the administrators.
Are silly names such a bad thing, anyway? Psychotic 07-30-2007, 01:59 AM I 100% approve of and agree with Azar's post. Goldenboko 07-30-2007, 02:11 AM I 100% approve of and agree with Azar's post. Mirage 07-30-2007, 02:12 AM I disagree. I would just make it so the previous forum name would be displayed below the signature for a while, for example 6 months. That way, no one would wonder who it is, and there would be less misunderstandings.
Oooooh, can they do that? That would be cool!
I doubt it's a feature included in the vB boards, but I'm sure it's possible to add something like that. Tavrobel 07-30-2007, 02:17 AM Are silly names such a bad thing, anyway?
I agree with everything except this query.
Jojo, anyone? rubah 07-30-2007, 02:23 AM The sticky thread is a nice idea, azzie. Sagensyg 07-30-2007, 02:24 AM tifal_bug and ^^~*M0oNLigHt~Rac00n*~<3 got to me XD.
:monster:
But why do "Established Members" have to be restricted? Doesn't everyone have a specific member number :mog:? Or at least make a rule that if you get a warning you're banned from getting a name change for double the time of someone else to get a name change. Besides, isn't that the reason people are "Established"? To track their warnings? Heath 07-30-2007, 02:28 AM tifal_bug and ^^~*M0oNLigHt~Rac00n*~<3 got to me XD.
But why do established members have to be restricted? Doesn't everyone have a specific member number :mog:? Or at least make a rule that if you get a warning you're banned from getting a name change for double the time of someone else to get a name change. Besides, isn't that the reason people are established? To track their warnings?
:monster:
Well the link to profiles used to be the member number (for instance mine is/was 5016) but the links have now changed to the actual user name. No idea if the user number is still used, but unless you're going to learn specifics I doubt it really matters. Sagensyg 07-30-2007, 02:33 AM tifal_bug and ^^~*M0oNLigHt~Rac00n*~<3 got to me XD.
But why do established members have to be restricted? Doesn't everyone have a specific member number :mog:? Or at least make a rule that if you get a warning you're banned from getting a name change for double the time of someone else to get a name change. Besides, isn't that the reason people are established? To track their warnings?
:monster:
Well the link to profiles used to be the member number (for instance mine is/was 5016) but the links have now changed to the actual user name. No idea if the user number is still used, but unless you're going to learn specifics I doubt it really matters.
View a person's profile then search the URL ;o
Editga!
Oh, damn you're right!
But when you click "Send Private Message to Member" on the Status Bar, it shows the number. Like yours, it's 5016. Nantuko 07-30-2007, 02:43 AM I 100% approve of and agree with Azar's post.
My name wasn't even silly either, I simply wanted it to be Seppuku , there is a member named that already, but if you do a search for it all the guy wanted was to become a CK and that was the whole 3-5posts the guy made, so really there's no point in him being a member. This was years ago as well, I believe, so he's definitely not coming back.
Plus, name changes are different to me than other people, it's not just my name I'm changing, I'm also changing the style of my signatures because using fonts in photoshop typing "Khaotic" would be different than "Seppuku" and I could come up with new ideas and things, I know it sounds weird, but unless you make sigs a lot , you won't really understand what I'm saying. Sagensyg 07-30-2007, 02:45 AM I 100% approve of and agree with Azar's post.
My name wasn't even silly either, I simply wanted it to be Seppuku , there is a member named that already, but if you do a search for it all the guy wanted was to become a CK and that was the whole 3-5posts the guy made, so really there's no point in him being a member. This was years ago as well, I believe, so he's definitely not coming back.
Plus, name changes are different to me than other people, it's not just my name I'm changing, I'm also changing the style of my signatures because using fonts in photoshop typing "Khaotic" would be different than "Seppuku" and I could come up with new ideas and things, I know it sounds weird, but unless you make sigs a lot , you won't really understand what I'm saying.
I agree with you, I was thinking of changing my name to "ALB3L NOX", and typing everything in bold, but I read the rule a while ago, and it just left my mind... Are silly names such a bad thing, anyway?
I agree with everything except this query.
Jojo, anyone?
Guess that's just up to what we find personally annoying. I dislike names like xXxi_luv_tidus<3xXx far more than Jojo's silly taste for tildes and weird capitalization. But I don't dislike either enough to try to eliminate them. It's much more fun to have someone to deride! Tavrobel 07-30-2007, 04:07 AM Weird capitalization is always a bad thing. The novelty wears off, though. demondude55 07-30-2007, 10:01 AM Personaly I think keep it at 6 month wait and have a sticky thread with name changes in.
Makes things a lot easier. theundeadhero 07-30-2007, 11:19 AM But why do "Established Members" have to be restricted?Celebrated victims of their fame. f f freak 07-31-2007, 04:08 AM I think that the whole "friends won't realise" or whatever the hell it was argument is a load of rubbish. There are quite a few ways around that and two that immediately spring to mind. One brings up the Buddy List. I'll use an example for this. Take me and GB. Say I had GB on my Buddy list. He goes and changes his name to something like GoldBoko. I notice on my Buddy List that GoldBoko is there. I check his profile and it says Formerly: GoldenBoko. Then I'm all like "Oh I see now."
That was way number 1.
Way Number 2 is the previously mentioned thread idea. Heath 07-31-2007, 02:21 PM I think that the whole "friends won't realise" or whatever the hell it was argument is a load of rubbish. There are quite a few ways around that and two that immediately spring to mind. One brings up the Buddy List. I'll use an example for this. Take me and GB. Say I had GB on my Buddy list. He goes and changes his name to something like GoldBoko. I notice on my Buddy List that GoldBoko is there. I check his profile and it says Formerly: GoldenBoko. Then I'm all like "Oh I see now."
That was way number 1.
Way Number 2 is the previously mentioned thread idea.
As was mentioned though, the "Formerly:" field isn't always filled in. Though I agree if it were filled in as a standard then there wouldn't be too much of a problem with it, as I think Del said. edczxcvbnm 07-31-2007, 04:27 PM As a person who has never WILLINGLY had their name changed I can say that I don't give a :skull::skull::skull::skull:. Make it so they can never change their name. That'll make people think twice about the crap name they choose. Sagensyg 07-31-2007, 04:36 PM As a person who has never WILLINGLY had their name changed I can say that I don't give a :skull::skull::skull::skull:. Make it so they can never change their name. That'll make people think twice about the crap name they choose.
Lol. Goldenboko 07-31-2007, 04:38 PM As a person who has never WILLINGLY had their name changed I can say that I don't give a :skull::skull::skull::skull:. Make it so they can never change their name. That'll make people think twice about the crap name they choose.
I don't agree with that. Sometimes people pick the right name but opinions change over time. Or it could be as simple as a small typo when they first join. Loony BoB 07-31-2007, 04:55 PM I think that people who want to change their name should have their name changed to whatever the admin feels like changing their name to. This way, people would have to be sincere when they say "I don't like my current username, I want a new one." Leeza 07-31-2007, 06:46 PM Wow! I agree with ed! That's a first. :)
GB, typos are understandable and we would never hold you to them in your name. Nantuko 07-31-2007, 06:54 PM So if I were to claim I typo'ed Khaotic, you'd change it to Chaotic? :p Leeza 07-31-2007, 07:08 PM After two years? :) Leen-Leen 07-31-2007, 07:09 PM As a person who has never WILLINGLY had their name changed I can say that I don't give a :skull::skull::skull::skull:. Make it so they can never change their name. That'll make people think twice about the crap name they choose.
I don't agree with that. Sometimes people pick the right name but opinions change over time. Or it could be as simple as a small typo when they first join.
I agree with Boko. I mean, I've had the username innocentenshi7 ever since I was 11, and I thought that was a "cool" username for a while. But changes in opinion do happen, and now the username innocentenshi7 isn't so great. xD Change isn't a bad thing, anyways! :P Leeza 07-31-2007, 07:41 PM I happen to agree with you Leen-Leen... about innocentenshi7 being not so great if I always have to copy/paste it when I'm typing. So, happy birthday. :) Leen-Leen 07-31-2007, 08:19 PM :eek:
Oh mah goodness! Wow! Are you serious?! xD Thank you so so much!!!
xD Finally, I don't have to put up with a username I made when I was 11 ... Flying Mullet 07-31-2007, 08:30 PM xD Finally, I don't have to put up with a username I made when I was 11 ...
But in five years you'll have to put up with a username you made when you were 16... Endless 07-31-2007, 08:48 PM Same here, got tired of Master Vivi, so I changed. I don't see the point of changing every other month, but once every few years is more meaningful about how one has changed and an old username may not represent them or mean anything anymore.
Unless you're a non-newtonian fluid like BoB. The more you try to make him change his name/avatar/title, the more he resists. Loony BoB 07-31-2007, 08:50 PM When I changed my name, I got about 50 messages demanding I change back. Even more with my avatar! Nantuko 07-31-2007, 09:32 PM Hmm, that's annoying now. Someone gets a name change so the admin doesn't have to copy and paste? So much for the established rule. I give a legit reason, and someone even agrees, but nothing happens. Goldenboko 07-31-2007, 09:35 PM Hmm, that's annoying now. Someone gets a name change so the admin doesn't have to copy and paste? So much for the established rule. I give a legit reason, and someone even agrees, but nothing happens.
stfu... I like Leen-Leen being Leen-Leen! Nantuko 07-31-2007, 09:43 PM Hmm, that's annoying now. Someone gets a name change so the admin doesn't have to copy and paste? So much for the established rule. I give a legit reason, and someone even agrees, but nothing happens.
stfu... I like Leen-Leen being Leen-Leen!
Wow, so much for this being a mature discussion. It's funny how you turn all A-WALL as soon as your friend gets a name change that you probably wanted. And please, save me the 4 letter words.
This new EoFF breed really sucks, nothing but a bunch of kids that can't have a discussion without blowing their top. What happened to the cool people. Sufjan (Fonzie) 07-31-2007, 09:49 PM Hmm, that's annoying now. Someone gets a name change so the admin doesn't have to copy and paste? So much for the established rule. I give a legit reason, and someone even agrees, but nothing happens.
stfu... I like Leen-Leen being Leen-Leen!
Wow, so much for this being a mature discussion. It's funny how you turn all A-WALL as soon as your friend gets a name change that you probably wanted. And please, save me the 4 letter words.
This new EoFF breed really sucks, nothing but a bunch of kids that can't have a discussion without blowing their top. What happened to the cool people.
I want to welcome you to the Internet and all of it's high-tech functions. Nantuko 07-31-2007, 09:52 PM Hmm, that's annoying now. Someone gets a name change so the admin doesn't have to copy and paste? So much for the established rule. I give a legit reason, and someone even agrees, but nothing happens.
stfu... I like Leen-Leen being Leen-Leen!
Wow, so much for this being a mature discussion. It's funny how you turn all A-WALL as soon as your friend gets a name change that you probably wanted. And please, save me the 4 letter words.
This new EoFF breed really sucks, nothing but a bunch of kids that can't have a discussion without blowing their top. What happened to the cool people.
I want to welcome you to the Internet and all of it's high-tech functions.
I swear this guy stalks me, he trys flaming me every chance he gets. That's pretty creepy man, you need some emotional support.
Oh, wait a sec, this guy is 15 too :( Go figure. Behold the Void 07-31-2007, 09:57 PM This went well. In the future, play nice kids. If you feel the issue still need be addressed, another thread may be made but it will get closed again if I see more of this. Loony BoB 07-31-2007, 09:58 PM Next person to make a cheap shot or personal attack to another member gets banned from this forum permanently.
EDIT: Beaten to it! Del Murder 08-02-2007, 03:33 AM Please see the FAQ for new rules on name changes. |