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[RSL]

If I had known the extent of some people's reactions I would never have taken part in this.

[Big D]

Likewise.
I didn't fully agree with quoting from locked LJ entires or very personalised PMs. Fortunately, that didn't really happen - occasionally, someone would say something like "Mr X just made an LJ entry about this, and he's not too happy with the things Shlup said to M4tt". Other times, staffers quoted things they posted in response to those LJ entries. The level of feedback and debate also let us know when it was time to cool things off a little.

[Raistlin]

Originally Posted by ShlupQuack

If you think your LJ entries were quoted just to laugh at you, that's your choice. If you think that we were wrong to assume that it was okay for stuff to be posted from your locked entries because you said you give "permission to share anything from my LJ with EoFF Staff," I apologize.

Anything? First you said that I said anything that was "appropriate," and now it's just "anything?" Which is it?

Either way, it was just downright stupid to think that I also gave you permission to share things with other members that I deliberately locked the LJ entry from. The idea that you even can possibly argue against that is mind-boggling. It's just basic common sense - if I did give permission to Staff, it was with the intention to promote discussion on the rules and running of the board - NOT to aid you in the monitoring of your joke. To even suggest otherwise is plain stupid, and anyone who argues otherwise is seriously lacking in either common sense, common courtesy/respect, or both.

EDIT: I guess it was my mistake for assuming Staff would use basic levels of thinking before quoting from LJ - if I even gave them permission. I'll remember in my dealings with them in the future to be very specific, or else they'll find loop holes around what I say(again).

[ShlupQuack]

Originally Posted by Raistlin

Anything? First you said that I said anything that was "appropriate," and now it's just "anything?" Which is it?

Depends on which post of yours I'm quoting. The quote from my post that you're ranting about was copy/pasted from a post you made.

I don't see how you can be so pissed when it's not like any staff member did anything that you didn't say we could do. It is totally not fair of you to be mad at every staff member because you weren't specific enough in giving permission to have your locked entries quoted to other staff members. Yes, I realize you do have a right to be upset that your locked entries were, a couple of times, quoted, but the level of how pissed you are, along with the fact that you don't even know what we discussed and to what extent, is completely over the line.

I realize you're not going to recognise how absolutely nuts you're being, so I'm not going to bother trying to defend anything that happened. You ignore what you don't want to hear anyway.

I worry about people like you. I really do.

[MecaKane]

QUESTION:
Did your locked LJ entries talk about how depressed you were getting because of that whole thing and how last night you stayed up for 4 hours with a gun in your mouth because of it? Did you confess how much you were in love with some person who quit and how it was going to suck with them not around? Or was it more like rants about how you couldn't believe how stupid this person was being for going along with unbanning Kishi/quitting over it?
If it's one of the first two that would be horribly wrong and bad, otherwise it's like showing Tom Hanks a movie review that just goes on and on about what a jerk-off the character he played was. Whoever on staff it was that you blocked out of that entry, because of those events, didn't exist.

I'm not reading that whole thread to find out because it's like 30 pages.

[ShlupQuack]

I don't think there's a difference if his thoughts were based on something false or not; he still considered them his private thoughts. The issue is that those who posted those thoughts didn't realize he felt that way. You can call us stupid if you want, Raist, but we wouldn't have posted those things in the Staff Forum if we thought it wasn't okay, and that's the truth of it.

[Raistlin]

I don't see how you can be so pissed when it's not like any staff member did anything that you didn't say we could do.

Because obviously you were justified quoting ANY entry I made about anything, because that's allegedly what I said you could do - no matter what it's about. I'm not saying that happened, but if you follow you're logic, that's the only possible conclusion - which is absurd. It doesn't take too much thought and a little bit of courtesy to figure out that I didn't want you discussing in Staff me contemplating suicide or breaking up with my girlfriend or any other personal entry I may have made. If you agree with that, there's no other possibel conclusion in that what happened was wrong.

Did your locked LJ entries talk about how depressed you were getting because of that whole thing and how last night you stayed up for 4 hours with a gun in your mouth because of it? Did you confess how much you were in love with some person who quit and how it was going to suck with them not around? Or was it more like rants about how you couldn't believe how stupid this person was being for going along with unbanning Kishi/quitting over it?
If it's one of the first two that would be horribly wrong and bad, otherwise it's like showing Tom Hanks a movie review that just goes on and on about what a jerk-off the character he played was. Whoever on staff it was that you blocked out of that entry, because of those events, didn't exist.

Most of them were as you said, and it doesn't bother me that they were quoted beyond the fact that it went against what I said in my LJ("don't discuss this with anyone outside of this friends' group" - which I put at the beginning of the first entry I made with each new subgroup. Despite what I allegedly said in Feedback about how they could quote "anything" - which is a little like justifying tearing a friends' house down when the friend says "make yourself at home," I did specify in my LJ not to discuss it outside that subgroup). One was an angry rant which I specifically and intentionally excluded certain people from that entry, and also specified in that entry that it was NOT for the EoFF Staff subgroup.

It's not so much the content, but specifically going against my intentions in granting quoting permission(despite what denial of common sense and basic thought Shlup is professing) and my express wishes. And not even for a good reason - but for part of a joke.

[ShlupQuack]

Thanks for just ignoring the last thing I said. I won't repeat myself further.