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Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
I'm really tempted to just edit that out, Raist, because it is not accurate. I ask that, please, everyone disregard Raist's version of the story and wait patiently while the staff discusses the matter, at which time we'll be sure to take the time to let everyone know what's going on.
So Daryl saying in this thread that she banned Kishi twice is innaccurate?

And I know the first half is accurate because I was there for it, talking with Daniel and RSL. The only things I don't know for certain(which is why I said "it gets a bit hazy here) is what happened after you unbanned Kishi.
Old 03-25-2005, 09:12 AM
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I agree with BtV. It would be nice if they did that, and it might help release tensions a little. However, it isn't necessary.
Old 03-25-2005, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Raistlin
So Daryl saying in this thread that she banned Kishi twice is innaccurate?
That part is accurate.
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And I know the first half is accurate because I was there for it, talking with Daniel and RSL.
Well then you must be dumber than I thought 'cause you totally messed that part up.
Old 03-25-2005, 09:17 AM
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Kishi made thread. D editted pic out. Kishi deleted thread. Kishi posted same thread again. D editted image again. This part I saw with my own eyes.

D made thread in Staff. Or someone did. RSL only told me "he's making a thread in Staff," but maybe that changed. Either way, it was discussed in Staff. Daryl banned Kishi. I asked RSL, afterwards, if it was still being discussed. He said, "unless you count 'I can't believe he did this' as discussion, then no" or something like that. This I was around for.
Old 03-25-2005, 09:21 AM
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SHlup, I know you love BJ and all, but you and Wesley would make a great couple.
Old 03-25-2005, 09:21 AM
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Well you totally neglected to notice that I was also around for that part, and he wasn't banned for some time, in spite of the fact that several admins, Daryl not included were around.

EDIT: EEST! I don't even know how to respond to that without having to ban myself after.
Old 03-25-2005, 09:23 AM
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Or a great sitcom! With Desperate Housewives now "cancelled", something has to fill the void.

Take care all.
Old 03-25-2005, 09:23 AM
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Man, you guys are crazy. And I thought the thread in Staff got fast posts. Craaaaaaaaaaaazy.

I'm not getting too heavily involved because it seems that everyone that does is losing their faith in humanity or something, and getting quoted in and out of context, and this and that and blah. I for one support Shlup in this matter and I think that you guys should really give the girl a break. Well, okay, she's making some stupid responses (sorry, Shlup, it's true Maybe YOU need to get off the 'net and relax and let them calm down xD), but she's still made a decision and sometimes it's not the one that everyone favours, but is the one that is best for EoFF in the long run.

You all know I love EoFF to bits. I live this place. In the over-four-years that I've been here, Kishi has been one of the shining figures, and despite me not seeing eye to eye with him at all points, I figure that, hey, he made one mistake. Just one, in over four years. One lapse of judgement - and only minor, because the image was controversial. You just have to keep in mind what's best for EoFF in the long run. If there is anything bad that comes of this, it's the fault of the people who throw a fit over something they shouldn't have thrown a fit about. You guys have to trust us to make that good a decision. Have we ever let you down in the past in any big way? I can't think of a time.

I love Leeza and I love Matty to death. However it's their choice to step down and I saw it coming for a long time anyway. Leeza has been constantly talked about behind her back for a long time and despite what anyone says, even herself, I think that's the #1 reason for her stepping down. This just happened to be a good time, or something. As for Matty, well, he's stepped down before, but time is a healer, I hope, as with almost every other Staffer that has stepped down in disgust, I trust he'll come right in the end. It's notable that this isn't the first time the staff have broken up on a decision, it's just the first time that you guys have been around in a media-like way to see it happen and hear about why.

So, you have choice number one - accept it, let it go, work your way back towards good feelings and cuddles and love everyone. Choice number two, make a big fuss over one member that doesn't really have anything to do with YOUR EoFF experience in any way whatsoever, and only make things worse for yourself and everyone else. I know it's not always what you want to hear, but sometimes you have to accept things and move along. I've had to do this on many, many occasions. Anyone who has been on EoFF's staff for quite some time will know that this

This really does feel like a media thing. Raistlin/Feedback is being the media. We've had World War I & II at EoFF but you guys didn't even know about it. Now we're having a media-watched war and suddenly everyone is making a big deal. This stuff does happen at EoFF. The only mistake that anyone has made is letting the public know about it. Usually we're a lot better than that. And I'm sorry for that much. There have been 'wars' at EoFF with more 'casualties' (including quite possibly my best friend on Staff who has only made 2-5 posts since that date many years ago). It's very, very, very hard for people, and it can bring me to huge stress and can put staffers into a temporary state of depression at times - or maybe I'm alone in that area, I don't know. But yeah. It is hard. Now you're actually seeing what happens, and you don't like it. Well, do you think we're enjoying all of this? We aren't. We'd rather everyone would just settle down. Feedback has become a media center and I hate it. I liked it better when the only things that people knew about when it comes to what goes on in Staff is what we told them. And when people who stepped down never said a thing about why. They don't have to like the rules but they respected them. That includes the rule that we can do whatever we want.

Please, guys, don't take this too far. I wonder if World War I was to re-occur in a time with modern media if they would have considered the whole thing to be brutal and for Winston Churchil to be slated for his approach to the war. Media sucks. Sorry, I'm getting more into a personal gripe about this now.

Also, I'm not going to respond to all the IMs and PMs about this. I'm having a beautiful time away from EoFF in certain aspects of my life and I refuse to let this ruin it. EoFF, as I have said earlier in this post, does have it's troubles and luckily we're usually very good at hiding them - if Big D hadn't posted, if nobody oustide Staff ever knew about this, nobody would have made a big deal (no Big D-eal pun intended ). Would that have been so bad? Have you lost faith in EoFF in the past when the staff has broken down? No, because you never knew. Sometimes we bend the rules or change them for certain people, yes. Sometimes they end up getting banned anyway - such is life.

For what it's worth, I've always - always - been a very anti-ban kind of guy. If I get my way once in all of it, then I'm happy. Let it be this once

EDIT, AFTER THE RECENT POSTS THAT SUDDENLY SURGED IN SINCE I CLICKED 'REPLY': What I do find that raises my spirits in all of this is that people are still finding the time to make jokes that make me laugh. That is the true spirit of Eyes on Final Fantasy and I love you for it. Even in these times, I know we can pull through.
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