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Originally Posted by Raistlin
I guess, to some of the staff, those are just words.
They're not just words, Raist, but it's hard to find a parallel between Kishi and some guy who joins just to post goatse. And again, I'm not saying Kishi should not be banned for what he did. But I do think Shlup deserves a chance to explain herself. That's all I'm saying.

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Old 03-25-2005, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Yamaneko
They're not just words, Raist, but it's hard to find a parallel between Kishi and some guy who joins just to post goatse. And again, I'm not saying Kishi should not be banned for what he did. But I do think Shlup deserves a chance to explain herself. That's all I'm saying.
I've been talking to Shlup since yesterday! She's explained herself as well as she's able to to me, as far as I can tell.

And you're right - there is no parallel. But the fact of the matter is, no matter how some people try to avoid it, is that if I, for example, posted that image, than I'd be gone, and Kishi's not? That's not right.

Also: staff has been telling us for YEARS that no one, except Cid, is above the rules, and that if ANYONE, including current staff members did it, then they'd be banned. Remember that controversy when Bleys was on staff about how he was getting away with things? Now it's time to prove that staff isn't just all talk on the matter of no favoritism.
Old 03-25-2005, 03:35 AM
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well, there's obviously a lot of emotion involved.
Old 03-25-2005, 03:40 AM
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I find this whole thing disturbing, as I cant sort out how I feel on this issue. I mean I like Kishi's comments, and I like things to be fair.

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Good for you, guy. Unfortunately, you're not the only one who wants to hear from her.

edit: To Raist. Posts pop up like bunny rabbits mating here.
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Originally Posted by Raistlin
I pledge to do whatever I can in the best interest of EoFF, no matter my personal feelings on the matter.
And if it's in the best interest of EoFF to keep Kishi, then what? Are you still gonna yell at us for letting him get away with something someone else wouldn't have? Well, perhaps it does show that our rules aren't perfect as they stand
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And if it's in the best interest of EoFF is to keep Kishi, then what? Are you still gonna yell at us for letting him get away with something someone else wouldn't have? Well, perhaps it does show that our rules aren't perfect as they stand
I consider following the rules and policy that have been followed and enforced faithfully for the past 5 years(made by Cid himself, I might add) to be "in the best interest of EoFF." EoFF won't fall apart without Kishi.
Old 03-25-2005, 03:47 AM
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Bickering like this won't solve anything. This issue isn't going anywhere until Shlup says exactly what happened. Until then, we are getting nowhere.

I don't even understand why there is an argument. Kishi should be banned because he posted porn, just like anyone else would be. Although I wish that these "Slip-ups" weren't bannable offences, I have absolutely no say in it. All I want is for the problem to be resolved so we can get back to the way things were...ohh...a day ago.
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