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[eestlinc]

thank you for bringing us commoners into your world, if only for a moment. I think I'm going to start manipulating everyone until I am the head admin now. Don't get in my way or I'll kill you too.

[RSL]

Just when you think this might blow over. Thanks a bunch, Del.

[Psychotic]

Originally Posted by Del Murder

My only regret is that I had the flu for the last few days and was unable to defend my fellow staffers ShlupQuack and Loony BoB in a public view. They have been getting a lot of guff over this issue, and I think this is unfounded. Look at yourselves before you cast stones. Would you turn away a good friend, a family member, a child just because they made one mistake? It was a cartoon image for crying out loud. They have been my heroes in this whole ordeal, for standing their ground and sticking up for what is right.

When Shlup says things like "Christ on a cracker, you people need to get out of the house once in awhile." instead of at least trying to justify what she did, then what do you expect her to get other than guff, Del? As for BoB, he is nothing more than a hypocrite according to one of the quotes Raistlin has kindly collected: "I would ban my best friend if he did something wrong." If they really had stood their ground like you were suggesting, then they wouldn't have made an exception for one of their own. Big D, Leeza and Lord Krang are the ones who stood their ground, in my mind.

Anyway, to be honest, I'm not all that bothered that Kishi isn't banned and I never have been - he's a great member and an asset to EoFF. It's just frustrating when the staff let their own friends get away with things (when they specifically stated they would not do this) when our own friends (Peter, for example) are banned for it. To quote Fire_of_avalon: "Peter is to me what Kishi is to them."

But as I requested in my first post: Please can we have a clarfication regarding innaproppriate images, and who has the "importance" and "status" to avoid this. Otherwise it leads to uncertainty as to what is allowed and what isn't, and in my mind there needs to be some sort of clarity regarding things like this.

[nik0tine]

I wish you luck, because that is all a coward has.

Oh please... I have alot of respect for you Del, but that was completely uncalled for.

I don't know what the image was. I didn't see it. However, if I, or another member had posted it , you said we would get banned? That most definetly does not seem right to me. I can understand the Kishi was unbanned. He has been here for years. However, the fact that after being banned he STILL kept his knighthood is unacceptable to me. He may be a respectable member of the community, but he has proven himself unfit to be a CK. A Cid's Knight is someone that we should trust. A Cids Knight is not someone that would post 'borderline' images.

I don't have a problem if he stays, but I think his status as a CK should be revoked.

[Flamethrower]

I don't think he should be banned, nor do I think he should be demodded. What I want to see is for the staff to own up to their big mistake in the past when they said they would ban anybody including current staff for posting porn. Making mistakes is forgivable; making mistakes and acting like you didn't is not.

[Raistlin]

My biggest concern is that staff has said for years that it doesn't matter if you're a member, Knight, or administrator - if you're anyone but Cid, you're equally responsible for your own actions, and you are treated equally by the rules. Do I need to take out my page of quotes again? If you admit any regular member would be banned for posting that image, then it's obviously not border-line.

I, too, am somewhat disappointed with Matt, D, and Leeza(although I understand Leeza had been talking/thinking about stepping down for some time now and Matt always talked about it). Yes, stepping down and let others making your arguments is the easy way out. But so is going back on five-year-old staff principles so you don't have to make a hard decision.

[Del Murder]

I will officially apologize for the coward remark. I'm still a little hazy and my emotions got the best of me as the post wore on. If you saw some of the things D was saying in the staff thread you would see where I'm coming from.

[Strider]

One thing.

This isn't a business or a university or anything like that. There shouldn't be any such thing as "tenure", as Del put it, lest it be construed as... well, for lack of a better term, elitism.