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[M] Samus Aran
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A quiet evening alone, that's what I was doing. Got me to think. "I need to write up my suspicion list already." Alas here I am.

I think we need to address Barrett and our replacement Edge.

Originally Posted by [M] Barret ^
Since I can only vote for one, I'll go for Fran because they seemed to me to be the most analysing one and thusly the one who would be best eliminated so they don't cause as much of a fuss;

##Vote: Fran
Just a wonder but wouldn't you want the one that posts the most to stay alive, that offers more of a chance for them to slip up. More evidence as well. Posting a lot isn't a very good evidence. If you went with that, there would be a number of people on your list.



Originally Posted by [M] Barret ^
Originally Posted by [M] Fran ^
Nice. So since I kept my vote with someone who I didn't think was playing well, it makes me suspicious. If I had changed my vote, I would have been suspicious too. Damned if I do, damned if I don't eh?
If you had a legitimate reason for voting then you wouldn't be under suspicion right now. "Because he was annoying" just doesn't cut it in this game.
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Originally Posted by [M] Rydia ^
##Vote: Ingus because
5. He's just god damn annoying.
Who was a townie? Oh yeah.... rydia. Some people find the annoying thing a legit reason Mister Barret If they are going out of their way to have a different persona, an annoying one some may say, that could lead to them trying to fake something.


Originally Posted by [M] Barret ^
Originally Posted by [M] Faris ^
I agree though, Barret's vote is pretty fast, and I don't quite see the connections he points out in his evidence. Care to explain a bit more as I'm not entirely getting at your reasons.
I'm simply looking at the voting patterns. If there's one thing I've learned over the years playing this game, votes give away everything. This is especially true in such a game where people have lots of time to consider their answers and can blantantly lie without anyone picking it up (in "real-life" Mafia games I tend to be something of a human lie detector making things easier). While we don't know if the Redded people were Mafia per say, I would say their concurrent demises, one at the hands of townspeople and the other through another means, suggests they were on the same bandwagon since it wouldn't make sense for anyone but non-Mafia members to target Irvine in the night directly following it unless it's some purposeful ruse to take people off the scent.

In the first round Fran, Quina and Lulu all voted for the person lynched. In round two they all voted for the same person again. This to me suggests that they're working together. I imagine Irvine decided to vote for Ingus because everyone was jumping on him and it was an opportunity to make sure an innocent died. They couldn't all change their votes however because that's just too suspicious. Now that Lulu is dead that leaves Fran and Quina. Of the two Fran is the one that's "doing the most damage" as it were.
Um ok barret. He was an independent faction, him and lulu that is. They were out to kill everyone else, the mafia as well, just as the town was.
Originally Posted by Baret
Originally Posted by [M] Edgar ^
Other then vote, he’s done almost nothing! I think he may be trying to hide out, and lay low. Next look at the italicized caption (in his first post). He preaches that he can’t watch such speed voting. Then votes immediately in round 2 and 3. We found Lulu off contradictions, could we be on a potential mafian member with them again? Maybe, that’s why your on the top of my list.
God your quote was a mess. Anyways, one of the reasons why I lie low and don't get involved in the mass disputes is because it's a sure-fire way to get people thinking your Mafia. I give my reasons and rebuttals to anyone who accuses me and lay low the rest of the time. Petty squabbles and over-analysing just isn't my style. I voted as quick as I did so my analysis could be right next to the voting scores so people didn't have to track back to check them (I'm assuming many would just say "o he's lying" and ignore me). I also suspect you so much it's unreal. If I had a concrete reason to vote for you right now I would, but at the moment your incessant double talk makes it nye on impossible to follow what you're saying/doing.
Rarely saying something gets suspicion on you as well, quick voting also does that. The more you talk, and if you truly are a good orator then you should be able convince people what you say is the truth.



Originally Posted by [M] Edge ^
Originally Posted by [M] Quina ^
Barret: If you're going to lump me in with the Lovers, you're going to have to come up with some explanation as to what the Lovers actually are. I don't go for foursomes.
I will say that after attempting to read through all of these posts and try to come up with some suspects I've found you the most suspicious so far. Irvine (a confirmed guilty person) was quick to take you off of his suspect list and defended Lulu (a confirmed guilty person):

Originally Posted by [M] Irvine ^
Well, Quina's off my suspect list. For now.

I think Lulu's suspicion is unfounded, but that doesn't necessarily mean she's Mafia; she may have just interpreted some of Edgar's posts incorrectly in the interim between the two quotes mentioned previously.

Now then, with Quina no longer being a prime suspect of mine, and my opinion on Lulu, the current prime suspect, being readily available above, who do I suspect now? Apologies for the overuse of "suspect". My thoughts on that is that it may be because you are guilty too.
Then he pointed his finger towards Cyan (a confirmed innocent person) as well as me (unconfirmed innocent person). That's why I'm thinking that those people on this list he went after are possibly innocent:
Originally Posted by [M] Irvine ^
Vivi - Voted for Edge, the only person not yet to post in this thread. Mafia voting for a random known non-Mafia? Or, a sneaky plan by Vivi as a Mafia to vote for one of his fellow Mafia, who hadn't posted, just as a seemingly random vote to draw attention away from both of them?

Edge - See Vivi, but obviously no evidence as of yet. Hardly a strong suspect in my eyes, but there's always the possibility.

Cyan - As mentioned by Firion, Cyan started the voting for Rydia with a bunch of evidence that seven of us, not knowing any better, followed nigh-blindly. I was one of them, of course. Now that Rydia has turned out to be an oddly-posting Townie, Cyan's arguments look more suspicious, as Firion pointed out.

So Vivi and Cyan are the big ones for me right now. No vote as of yet, of course.
That would make Lulu and Quina Irvine's partners in crime.
Originally Posted by [M] Edge ^
Ah, well, if Bahamut clearly specified that the lovers role had nothing to do with the flash version that would mean that the whole thing with the person committing suicide the following night after the other was lynched could be faulty. Irvine could have very well been killed by someone else. The fact that they were also killer and doctor respectively leaves me to believe that it is possible that there is more than a duo of lovers with a different role (like a Lover(Cop) or something.

Which means that they could be a group faction with more than two people. Especially since they were scum. Basically, that would mean that the other scums probably knew about them and vice versa. Lovers could be the name of the mafia in this game. Ofcourse, this all seems like such a stretch, but something seemed puzzling about the fact that Bahamut felt the need to list two roles.
Um ok barret Edge. He was an independent faction, him and lulu that is. They were out to kill everyone else, the mafia as well, just as the town was.

Stop spreading mis-info. Funny that you both say this, I'm seeing a connection between the two of you and i'm not liking that. So i'm leaning toward the masons or mafia belief in you two. More so the mafia thing. I can't even be bothered in quoting more, I'd rather not repeat myself more than I have.

Edit: silly typos.
Old 01-22-2008, 03:12 AM
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